Proof or counterexaample of Floor 7 Ceiling

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The discussion centers on the mathematical properties of the ceiling function, specifically addressing the statement that for all real numbers x and y, the ceiling of their product equals the product of their ceilings: ceiling(x * y) = ceiling(x) * ceiling(y). Participants express confusion over the definitions of floor and ceiling functions, with clarifications provided that floor(x) is the largest integer less than or equal to x, and ceiling(x) is the smallest integer greater than or equal to x. Additionally, it is established that for all odd integers n, ceiling(n/2) equals (n+1)/2, which is straightforward due to the nature of odd integers.

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Homework Statement



For all real numbers x and y, ceiling of x,y = ceiling of x times ceiling of y
For all odd integers n, ceiling of n/2 = (n+1)/2

Homework Equations



definition floor: floor of x = n n<or equal to x < n+1
definition ceiling: ceiling of x=n n-1 < x <orequal to n.

The Attempt at a Solution



No idea where to even start. I don'r quite understand the concept and floor & ceiling.
 
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nastygoalie89 said:

Homework Statement



For all real numbers x and y, ceiling of x,y = ceiling of x times ceiling of y
I don't understand what you are asking in the problem above. What does "ceiling of x, y" mean?
nastygoalie89 said:
For all odd integers n, ceiling of n/2 = (n+1)/2
This one is straightforward. If n is odd, then n/2 will have a fractional part that is 1/2 or .5.
nastygoalie89 said:

Homework Equations



definition floor: floor of x = n n<or equal to x < n+1
definition ceiling: ceiling of x=n n-1 < x <orequal to n.
Your definitions are not precise enough to be helpful. floor(x) is the largest integer that is less than or equal to x. For example, floor(2) = 2, and floor (1.99) = 1

ceiling(x) is the smallest integer that is greater than or equal to x. For example, ceiling(5) = 5, and ceiling(1.01) = 2.
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The Attempt at a Solution



No idea where to even start. I don'r quite understand the concept and floor & ceiling.
 
Is your first question whether the following statement is true or false?

[tex] \text{ceiling}(x \times y) = \text{ceiling}(x) \times \text{ceiling}(y)[/tex]

If so - try a few test values for [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex].
 

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