Proof Theorems: Learn How to Make Proofs | Beginner's Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around learning how to create proofs for various mathematical theorems, particularly from the perspective of a beginner. Participants explore the nature of proofs, theorems relevant to engineering, and resources for learning about proofs.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a systematic approach to making proofs and asks for foundational statements that are universally accepted as true.
  • Another participant notes that there are no general methods for proving theorems, highlighting that some theorems, like Fermat's Last Theorem, have taken generations to prove.
  • A suggestion is made that a course in linear algebra could be a good starting point for learning about proofs.
  • Several participants express interest in knowing which specific theorems are essential for engineers to understand and prove.
  • One participant humorously remarks that engineers do not need to prove theorems but only apply them, reflecting a perspective on the role of proofs in engineering.
  • A participant shares a link to a resource containing famous proofs, indicating that online tools can aid in finding information about proofs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no definitive list of theorems that engineers must know how to prove, and there is a recognition of the varying importance of proofs in different fields. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding which specific theorems are most relevant for engineers.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the lack of consensus on a systematic method for creating proofs and the ambiguity surrounding which theorems are essential for engineers. There are also indications of varying expectations about the necessity of proving theorems versus applying them.

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Hi everyone! I'm a new user of this forum!
I was interested in learning to make proofs of the various theorems.
Is there a schematical way to make the proofs ?
Where should i start ? And what are the statement for my proofs that are absolutely true so that i can base my proof on ?
Is there a website or a book i can use to learn the various ways to proof something ?
 
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Are there any particular theorems you had in mind - this is a big subject.
There are no general, systematic, methods though. Some theorems have taken generations to prove (eg. Fermat's Last theorem.)

Proofs are built from statements that are assumed true (maybe they were proved earlier).
The rules of arithmetic would be an example.

Probably a good start would be a course on linear algebra.
 
thank you! but which are the theorems that i have to know the proof as an engineer ?
 
nebbione said:
thank you! but which are the theorems that i have to know the proof as an engineer ?

There is no magic list.

And you aren't giving us enough information to answer you questions.
 
Sorry i mean demonstration of famous theorems or most known so that i can learn how to proof
 
thank you very much ! i know about google sorry for a too general question!
 
nebbione said:
thank you! but which are the theorems that i have to know the proof as an engineer ?
I accord with the usual physicist snobbiness I will point out that Engineers do not need to prove theorems - they only need to apply them. :D
 
Post 6 and 8... awesome.
 

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