Undergrad Proof using Rule of Disjunctive Amplification

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The discussion centers on the application of the rule of disjunctive amplification, specifically how to derive ##\neg r \lor \neg s## from ##\neg r##. Participants explore the validity of substituting propositions with their negations in logical rules, questioning whether this holds true across various logical constructs. The consensus confirms that using negations in place of original propositions is valid, as demonstrated through examples like Modus Ponens. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying principles of logical substitution. Ultimately, the discussion clarifies that negating propositions does not alter the validity of logical rules.
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use of negation in disjunctive amplification
Book shows a proof where a conclusion is reached of: ##\neg r##. The next step says ##\neg r \lor \neg s## using the rule of disjunctive amplification. The rule of disjunctive amplification as I know it is ##p \implies p \lor q##. I don't see how from this you can also say ##\neg p \implies \neg p \lor \neg q##. I can see that the truth table is a tautology so I know it's true, I just don't see how to get there.
 
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Is this as simple as letting ##p = \neg r## and ##q = \neg s##?
 
hotvette said:
Is this as simple as letting ##p = \neg r## and ##q = \neg s##?
Yes.
 
Really? So this means I can take any of the logic Rules and just replace anything with its negative and vice versa and it is still valid? Example of M. Ponens ##[p \land (p \implies q] \implies q## can be written as ##[\neg p \land (\neg p \implies \neg q] \implies \neg q##? The book makes no mention of this. I wonder how we are expected to know...
 
##p## is any proposition, including ##\neg q## (kind of. Technically it follows the law of substitution, but functionally it’s the same thing).
 
Think through it carefully. If you have ##\neg p## and ##\neg p \implies \neg q##, why wouldn’t you have ##\neg q##?
 
Sure, that's just M. Ponens. Makes sense, thanks!
 

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