Proper Motion of Stars: Solving Daniel's Calculation Problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the proper motion of stars, specifically addressing discrepancies in results from a provided formula. Daniel initially presents his calculations for Cartesian velocities but finds them inconsistent with expected values. After clarifying that the angle α should be converted from hours to degrees, he recalculates but still encounters errors. A participant points out that Daniel neglected to convert degrees to radians, which is crucial for accurate trigonometric calculations. Once this is corrected, Daniel achieves the correct results, highlighting the importance of unit conversion in astrophysical calculations.
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Hi

I have a question about "proper motion of stars".
At this page (http://www.astronexus.com/a-a/motions-long-term) there are a lot of examples how you can measuring the proper motion of stars.

But at "Point 4 - Turn these velocities into Cartesian velocities" i have some different results.

vR = -5.19 Km/sec
vTA = -58.3 Km/sec
vTD = -106.6 Km/sec
α = 14.2612
δ = 19.1873

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should!

vx = ( vR * cos δ * cos α ) - (vTA*sin α ) - (vTD * sin δ * cos α ) = -57.7 Km/sec
vy = ( vR * cos δ * sin α ) + (vTA * cos α ) - (vTD * sin δ sin α ) = +31.5 Km/sec
vz = vR * sin δ + vTD* cos δ = -102.3 Km/sec

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My results: vx = +54.1, xy = +37.5 and xz = -102.4
You can see the results one and two don't agree with my calculation, the result three agrees (depents on the accuracy of "my" data!)

Can anybody help me, please?

Thank you very much,
DANIEL
 
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Did you see that α is in hours, not degrees? Did you convert it to degrees before taking the sin and cos?
 
Hi

now i have seen that i must convert α = 14.2612 Hours in degrees (=213.915°)! So far so good!

but if i calculate Vx = -5.19*COS(19.1873)*COS(213.915)-(-58.34*SIN(213.915))-(-106.6*SIN(19.1873)*COS(213.915)) = +45.7 instead -57.7 Km/sec.
and if i calculate Vy = -5.19*COS(19.1873)*SIN(213.915)+(-58.34*COS(213.915)-(-106.6*SIN(19.1873)*SIN(213.915)) = -47.7 instead +31.5 Km/sec

i calculate it with Excel!

query: http://www.astronexus.com/a-a/motions-long-term

thank you again, phyzguy!
 
You must have made a mistake. See below:
Code:
from pylab import *
alpha = 14.2612 * 15.0 * pi / 180.0
delta = 19.1873 * pi / 180.0
vR = -5.0 
vTA = -58.3 
vTD = -106.6 
vx = (vR * cos(delta) * cos(alpha)) - (vTA * sin(alpha)) - (vTD * sin(delta) * cos(alpha))
vy = (vR * cos(delta) * sin(alpha)) + (vTA * cos(alpha)) - (vTD * sin(delta) * sin(alpha))
vz = vR * sin(delta) + vTD * cos(delta)
print vx, vy, vz

-57.6862773004 31.464877787 -102.321575814
 
Ohh ok now i have the right result! i forgot the ("Pi/180"):eek:
Tthank you very much!
 

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