Properties of the Absolute Value

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Just wanted to say hi before I start my post! :smile:

As you may know there is a property of the absolute value that states; for [tex]a, b \in R[/tex];

[tex]|ab| = |a||b|[/tex]

Well, my friend asked me if I knew a proof for this... but I don't know...
How can we prove this statement/property? I know there is a proof for the triangle inequality but for this I really don't know but I'm curious.


I'd appreciate it if anyone could show me any kind of proof or send me some links etc. Thanks!
 
You prove that |ab|= |a||b| the same way you prove any such elementary statement: use the definitions.

The simplest definition of |x| (there are several equivalent definitions) is that |x|= x if x is positive or 0, -x if x is negative.

Now break it into "cases":

case 1: x and y are both positive: |x|= x and |y|= y. xy is also positive so |xy|= xy= |x||y|.

case 2: x is positive while y is negative: |x|= x and |y|= -y. xy is negative so |xy|= -xy= x(-y)= |x||y|.

case 3: x is negative while y is positive: |x|= -x and |y|= y. xy is negative so |xy|= -xy= (-x)y= |x||y|.

case 4: x and y are both negative: |x|= -x and |y|= -y. xy is positive so |xy|= xy= (-x)(-y)= |x||y|.

case 5: x= 0 and y is positive: |x|= 0 and |y|= y. xy= 0 so |xy|= 0= 0(y)= |x||y|.

case 6: x= 0 and y is negative: |x|= 0 and |y|= -y. xy= 0 so |xy|= 0= (0)(-y)= |x||y|.

case 7: x is positive and y is 0: |x|= x and |y|= 0. xy= 0 so |xy|= 0= x(0)= |x||y|.

case 8: x is negative and y is 0: |x|= -x and |y|= 0. xy= 0 so |xy|= 0 = (-x)(0)= |x||y|.

case 9: both x and y are 0: |x|= 0 and |y|= 0. xy= 0 so |xy|= 0= (0)(0)= |x||y|.

There are simpler ways to prove that but I thought this would be conceptually clearest.
 
First, we have to understand that the absolute value is a function defined by:

[tex]|x| = \begin{cases}<br /> x & \text{if } x\geq 0 \\<br /> -x & \text{if } x<0<br /> \end{cases}[/tex]

So,

[tex]|ab| = \begin{cases}<br /> ab & \text{if } ab\geq 0 \\<br /> -ab & \text{if } ab<0<br /> \end{cases}[/tex]

Now, let's see what |a||b| is:

[tex]|a||b| = \begin{cases}<br /> ab & \text{if } a\geq 0 \wedge b\geq0 \\<br /> (-a)(-b) & \text{if } a\leq 0 \wedge b\leq0 \\<br /> (-a)b & \text{if } a> 0 \wedge b<0 \\<br /> a(-b) & \text{if } a<0 \wedge b<0<br /> \end{cases} \Leftrightarrow[/tex]

[tex]|a||b| = \begin{cases}<br /> ab & \text{if } a\geq 0 \wedge b\geq0 \\<br /> ab & \text{if } a\leq 0 \wedge b\leq0 \\<br /> -ab & \text{if } a> 0 \wedge b<0 \\<br /> -ab & \text{if } a<0 \wedge b<0<br /> \end{cases} \Leftrightarrow[/tex]

Notice that you have ab if a and b have the same sign and that you use -ab otherwise.

Now, if a and b have the same sign, [tex]ab\geq0[/tex]. If they have opposite signs (and are different than zero), [tex]ab<0[/tex].

Using this,

[tex]|a||b| = \begin{cases}<br /> ab & \text{if } ab \geq 0 \\<br /> -ab & \text{if } ab<0<br /> \end{cases} = |ab|[/tex]

Quod erat demonstrandum :-p
 
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let a = mcis(kpi) where m => 0, k is integer
and b = ncis(hpi) where n => 0, h integer
(clearly a,b are real)

|a||b|= mn
|ab|=|mcis(kpi)*ncis(hpi)| = |mncis[pi(k+h)]| = mn

as required
 
quark1005 said:
let a = mcis(kpi) where m => 0, k is integer
and b = ncis(hpi) where n => 0, h integer
(clearly a,b are real)

|a||b|= mn
|ab|=|mcis(kpi)*ncis(hpi)| = |mncis[pi(k+h)]| = mn

as required

This would make more sense if you had said that "mcis(hpi)" is
[tex]m (cos(h\pi)+ i sin(h\pi))[/tex]
That is much more an "engineering notation" than mathematics.

If you really want to go to complex numbers, why not
if
[tex]x= r_xe^{i\theta_x}[/tex]
and
[tex]y= r_ye^{i\theta_y}[/tex], then
[tex]|xy|= |r_xe^{i\theta_x}r_ye^{i\theta_y}|= |(r_xr_y)e^{i(\theta_x+\theta_y)}|[/tex]

But for any [itex]z= re^{i\theta}[/itex], |z|= r, so
[tex]|xy|= r_x r_y= |x||y|[/tex]
 
[tex]\Huge |ab|=\sqrt{(ab)^2}=\sqrt{a^2b^2}=\sqrt{a^2}\sqrt{b^2}=|a||b|[/tex]

and

[tex]\large |a+b|=\sqrt{(a+b)^2}=\sqrt{a^2+2ab+b^2}\leq \sqrt{a^2+|2ab|+b^2}=\sqrt{(|a|+|b|)^2}=||a|+|b||[/tex]

where I utilize the following fact:

|2ab|=|2(ab)|=|2||ab|=2|a||b|

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