Prove 4 Vectors: Last Hope for Finding an Answer

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The discussion centers on the proof that velocity is not a 4-vector, while the four-velocity (du^{i}/ds) and momentum are confirmed as 4-vectors. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the transformation properties of 4-vectors to establish this proof. Key resources provided include Wikipedia articles on 4-vectors and their derivatives, which are essential for grasping the necessary concepts. The conversation concludes with a suggestion to utilize proper time (dτ) in calculations to demonstrate that the four-velocity components indeed conform to the definition of a 4-vector.

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  • Understanding of 4-vectors and their transformation properties
  • Familiarity with proper time (dτ) in relativistic physics
  • Knowledge of the relationship between velocity and 4-velocity
  • Basic comprehension of differential calculus in the context of physics
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  • Study the transformation properties of 4-vectors in special relativity
  • Learn how to derive the four-velocity from proper time (dτ)
  • Explore the mathematical definitions of momentum as a 4-vector
  • Review the implications of the Lorentz transformation on 4-vectors
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, researchers in relativistic mechanics, and anyone seeking to deepen their understanding of 4-vectors and their applications in theoretical physics.

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In books, it is always posted that velocity (dx^{i}/dt) is not a 4 vector. While du^{i}/ds and momentum are 4 vectors.. But it is never proved.

How to prove this?? I am not finding anyway to it.

You're my last hope!
 
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Thank you for the reply, but can you tell me which one to use? I mean which formula from the two links?
 
Do not apply formulas - test the properties of a 4-vector.
If you do not know how a 4-vector transforms, then learn and revisit the problem of a proof later.
 
Oh thank you! You mean that if I took the proper time and divided that by ds = cdt \sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)} I should get the 4 components of U. And I say that yes, these looks like (dA^0, dA^1, dA^2, dA^3) as in your link so it is a 4 vector. Right?
 
sorry I meant if I took Ui and divided that by ..
 

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