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The discussion revolves around proving relationships between two sets A and B, specifically the De Morgan's laws: (A∪B)^c = A^c∩B^c and (A∩B)^c = A^c∪B^c. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and proof techniques, with participants exploring different methods to establish these relationships.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using Venn diagrams as a visual aid for the proofs.
  • One participant proposes using truth tables as another method for proving the relationships.
  • A participant outlines a standard method for proving set equality by demonstrating subset relationships, starting with the assumption that an element x belongs to (A∪B)^c and deriving conclusions about its membership in A^c and B^c.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of showing progress in the proof process to facilitate better assistance from others.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the best method for proving the relationships, with multiple approaches being discussed and no definitive resolution presented.

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Participants have not provided specific definitions or notations, which may lead to varying interpretations of the proofs. There is also a lack of clarity on the assumptions underlying the proposed methods.

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For any two sets A and B prove:

(A∪B)^c=A^c∩B^c
(A∩B)^c=A^c∪B^c
 
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Hello biocamme and welcome to MHB! :D

I've edited the title of your thread to be more descriptive of the problem at hand. Also, we ask that our users show their progress (work thus far or thoughts on how to begin) when posting questions. This way our helpers can see where you are stuck or may be going astray and will be able to post the best help possible without potentially making a suggestion which you have already tried, which would waste your time and that of the helper.

Can you post what you have done so far?

A brief description of the notation you are using may be helpful to some.
 
biocamme said:
For any two sets A and B prove:

(A∪B)^c=A^c∩B^c
(A∩B)^c=A^c∪B^c

By using Venn diagram?
 
\text{For any two sets }A\text{ and }B.\:\text{ prove: }\; \begin{array}{cc} (A \cup B)^c\:=\:A^c \cap B^c \\ (A \cap B)^c \:=\:A^c \cup B^c \end{array}
By Venn diagrams? . Truth tables? . Other?

 
A standard method for proving two sets, X and Y, equal is to prove first that X\subseteq Y and then that Y\subseteq X. And to prove X\subseteq Y, start "if x\in X" and then use the properties of X and Y to conclude x\in Y.

Here, if x\in (A\cup B)^c x is not in A\cup B. So x is not in A and x is not in B. Since x is not in A then it is in A^c . Since x is not in B, then it is in B^c so x is in A^c\cap B^c

Now, do the other way- if x is in A^c\cap B^c then it is in both A^c and B^c so x is not in A and not in B. That is, x is not in A\cup B so is in (A\cup B)^c.
 

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