Prove that s/t is rational where s and t are rational

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In summary, the conversation discusses the correctness of a proof and the steps involved in proving that s/t is a rational number. The first step is to define s and t as rational numbers with t not equal to 0. Then, a new step is introduced to show that s/t is equivalent to st^-1, where t^-1 is the rational number such that tt^-1 = 1. The final step involves showing that every non-zero rational number has a rational multiplicative inverse. This is a logical and concise approach to proving that s/t is a rational number.
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given the rational numbers s and t, with t != 0, prove that s/t is rational.
Is my proof correct? The steps from hypothesis to conclusion are in order below:

1) given rational numbers s,t with t != 0
2) take s = p/1 and t = q/1 where p,q are integers
3) (p/1)/(q/1) = p/q is rational
4) therefore by substitution s/t is rational
 
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Why are the denominators of s and and t 1? Aren't they arbitrary rational numbers?
 
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Ah yes of course thanks for pointing that out - is this better?

1) given rational numbers s,t with t != 0
2) s = a/b, t = c/d for integers a,b,c,d with b,c,d != 0
3) (a/b) / (c/d) = (a/b) * (d/c) = ad / bc is a rational number as ad and bc are integers (product of integers is an integer)
4) s = a/b and 1/t = d/c and so by substitution,
5) s/t is a rational number
 
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A slight improvement:
Start 3) with s/t = ... and the proof is done. Line 4) is not needed and what it says is distracting.
 
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Awesome thank you
 
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Awesome thank you
Here's an alternative approach. First, we ask what is meant by ##\frac s t## in the first place? The most logical answer is that $$\frac s t \equiv st^{-1}$$ where ##t^{-1}## is the rational such that ##tt^{-1} = 1##. And, we see that if ##t = \frac c d##, then ##t^{-1} = \frac d c##. And then $$\frac s t = st^{-1} = \frac{ad}{bc}$$ is rational.

This means that showing that ##\frac s t## is rational is equivalent to showing that every non-zero rational has a rational multiplicative inverse,
 
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Nice one thank you PeroK
 

1. What does it mean for a number to be rational?

A rational number is any number that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, where the denominator is not equal to zero. In other words, it is a number that can be written in the form of a/b, where a and b are integers.

2. How do you prove that s/t is rational?

To prove that s/t is rational, we need to show that it can be expressed as a ratio of two integers. This can be done by simplifying the fraction s/t and showing that the resulting numerator and denominator are both integers.

3. What is the importance of proving that s/t is rational?

Proving that s/t is rational is important because it helps us understand the nature of rational numbers and their properties. It also allows us to solve various mathematical problems and equations involving rational numbers.

4. Can s/t be irrational?

No, s/t cannot be irrational because both s and t are rational numbers. Since irrational numbers cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers, it is not possible for s/t to be irrational if both s and t are rational.

5. Are there any other ways to prove that s/t is rational?

Yes, there are other methods to prove that s/t is rational. One way is to use the definition of rational numbers and show that s/t satisfies all the criteria. Another method is to use the fact that the sum, difference, product, and quotient of two rational numbers is also a rational number.

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