Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around proving that the order of 5 modulo \(2^k\) is \(2^{k-2}\) for \(k \geq 3\). Participants explore various methods, primarily focusing on mathematical induction and congruences, to establish this property.
Discussion Character
- Mathematical reasoning
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants propose using induction to prove the order of 5 modulo \(2^{k+1}\) is \(2^{k-1}\) based on the assumption that it holds for \(2^k\).
- It is suggested that the congruence \(a \equiv b \pmod{n} \iff a = b + kn\) can be applied to derive equivalent congruences for \(2^{k+1}\).
- Several participants express uncertainty about how to transition from modulo \(2^k\) to \(2^{k+1}\) and how to prove that the order is indeed the smallest.
- One participant presents a calculation showing \(5^{2^{k-1}} = (5^{2^{k-2}})^2\) and questions how to evaluate this modulo \(2^{k+1}\).
- Another participant suggests that \(5^{2^{k-1}} \equiv 1 \pmod{2^{k+1}}\) and emphasizes the importance of understanding the inductive hypothesis.
- A later reply proposes showing that \(5^{2^{k-3}} \equiv 1 + 2^{k-1} \pmod{2^k}\) to justify that \(5^{2^{k-3}} \not\equiv 1 \pmod{2^k}\).
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the use of induction as a method to approach the proof, but there is no consensus on the specific steps or methods to transition between the different moduli or to establish the smallest order definitively.
Contextual Notes
Some participants express limitations in their understanding of how to rigorously prove that the order is the smallest positive integer satisfying the congruence conditions. There are unresolved questions regarding the transition from modulo \(2^k\) to \(2^{k+1}\) and the implications of the inductive hypothesis.