Proving Limits: How to Show x^x Approaches Infinity as x Approaches Infinity?

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The discussion centers on proving the limits of the function \(x^x\) as \(x\) approaches infinity, along with a related limit involving \(\log_e(x)\) as \(x\) approaches zero from the positive side. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and limit evaluation techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that \(\log_e(x)\) approaches \(-\infty\) as \(x\) approaches \(0^{+}\) and propose exploring this limit further.
  • One participant suggests setting \(y = 1/x\) to analyze the limit of \(\log_e(x)\) as \(x\) approaches \(0^{+}\), indicating that it suffices to compute \(\lim_{y\to \infty} -\log(y)\).
  • Another participant proposes starting with the limit of \(\ln(x^x) = x\ln(x)\) to tackle the second problem regarding \(x^x\) as \(x\) approaches infinity.
  • There is a discussion about the inequality \(x^x > x\ln(x)\) for \(x > 1\) and its implications for showing that \(x^x\) approaches infinity as \(x\) approaches infinity.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to prove that \(\lim_{x\to \infty} x\ln(x) = \infty\) to conclude that \(L = \infty\) for the limit of \(x^x\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some confusion regarding the second problem, indicating that there is no clear consensus on the best approach to prove the limit of \(x^x\) as \(x\) approaches infinity. Multiple perspectives and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various limit properties and inequalities, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of logarithmic and exponential functions in the context of limits.

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$$\log_{e}\left({x}\right)\to-\infty$$ as $$x\to{0}^{+}$$
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$${x}^{x}\to\infty$$ as $$x\to\infty$$

I know how to prove that $$\log_{e}\left({x}\right)$$ approaches $$\infty$$ as x approaches $$\infty$$ by using the definition given in the book, not sure how to use that to prove the first problem.
 
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Hi FallArk,

In the first problem, set $y = 1/x$. Then $y \to \infty$ as $x \to 0+$, and $\log_e x = -\log_e y$. So it suffices to compute $\lim\limits_{y\to \infty} -\log y$. For the second problem, compute the limit of $\ln(x^x) = x\ln x$ first.
 
Euge said:
Hi FallArk,

In the first problem, set $y = 1/x$. Then $y \to \infty$ as $x \to 0+$, and $\log_e x = -\log_e y$. So it suffices to compute $\lim\limits_{y\to \infty} -\log y$. For the second problem, compute the limit of $\ln(x^x) = x\ln x$ first.

I'm still a bit confused about the second problem. is it using the idea that $${x}^{x}$$ > xlnx and by limit comparison $${x}^{x} \implies \infty$$
 
FallArk said:
I'm still a bit confused about the second problem. is it using the idea that $${x}^{x}$$ > xlnx and by limit comparison $${x}^{x} \implies \infty$$

Perhaps we can simplify it a bit.
For $x>1$ we have that $x^x >x$.
So if $x\to\infty$ so does $x^x\to\infty$.
 
FallArk said:
I'm still a bit confused about the second problem. is it using the idea that $${x}^{x}$$ > xlnx and by limit comparison $${x}^{x} \implies \infty$$
That idea works (your inequality is valid for $x > 1$), but that's not what I meant. What I meant is the following. Suppose $L = \lim\limits_{x\to \infty} x^x$. Then $\ln L = \lim\limits_{x\to \infty} \ln(x^x) = \lim\limits_{x\to \infty} x\ln x$. Prove $\lim\limits_{x\to \infty} x\ln x = \infty$. Then $L = \infty$.
 

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