Proving Local Maximum for Analytic Functions on Open and Connected Sets

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The discussion revolves around proving that certain real-valued functions derived from an analytic function cannot achieve local maxima on an open and connected subset of the complex plane. The specific functions under consideration are the modulus of the function, its real part, and its imaginary part. Participants explore theoretical implications and relevant principles, particularly the Maximum Modulus Principle.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Maximum Modulus Principle implies that the modulus of a non-constant analytic function cannot achieve a local maximum.
  • Others discuss the implications of achieving a maximum for the real part of the function, suggesting that if it did, then the exponential of the function would also achieve a maximum.
  • A participant questions whether an inequality for the function is necessary to apply the Maximum Modulus Principle, expressing uncertainty about the implications of non-constancy.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between the boundedness of the exponential function and the maximum of the real part of the function.
  • One participant expresses confusion about concluding the proof for the modulus and seeks clarification on the implications of assuming a maximum exists.
  • Another participant suggests that the real part of the function does not achieve a maximum based on the properties of the exponential function.
  • There is a correction regarding the notation used for the functions, indicating a potential typo in the original statement of the problem.
  • One participant proposes a method to approach the imaginary part of the function but admits uncertainty about the details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the implications of the Maximum Modulus Principle for the modulus of the function and the real part of the function. However, the discussion about the imaginary part remains unresolved, with differing approaches and uncertainty about how to prove its behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the necessity of specific inequalities for applying the Maximum Modulus Principle and the implications of non-constancy of the function. There are also unresolved questions about the approach to the imaginary part of the function.

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Consider an analytic function $f$ and non-constant defined on a set $\mathcal U\subset\mathbb C$ open and connected. Prove that the real-valued functions $|f|,\,\text{Re}(z),\,\text{Im}(z)$ can't achieve local maximum.

This one looks hard, how to do it?
 
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インテグラルキラー;489 said:
Consider an analytic function $f$ and non-constant defined on a set $\mathcal U\subset\mathbb C$ open and connected. Prove that the real-valued functions $|f|,\,\text{Re}(z),\,\text{Im}(z)$ can't achieve local maximum.

This one looks hard, how to do it?

Well, the problem for $|f|$ is a pretty important theorem known as the Maximum Modulus Principle. For $\text{Re}(z)$ note that if $\text{Re}(f(z))$ acheived a maximum then so would $e^z$ since $|e^{f(z)}|=e^{\text{Re}(f(z))}$ from where you could apply the previous part. You try the case for the imaginary part.
 
AlexYoucis said:
Well, the problem for $|f|$ is a pretty important theorem known as the Maximum Modulus Principle.
Yes, I know the principle, but it's supposed that I need an inequality for $f$ in order the principle to be applied. Is it true if I say that if $f$ is non-constant, then we have $|f(z)-w|\le\epsilon$ forall $\epsilon>0$ and $z,w\in\mathbb C$ ? But I don't think if helps me.

For $\text{Re}(z)$ note that if $\text{Re}(f(z))$ acheived a maximum then so would $e^z$ since $|e^{f(z)}|=e^{\text{Re}(f(z))}$
Ah okay so $\text{Re}(f(z))$ because $|e^{f(z)}|$ ain't bounded?
 
インテグラルキラー;514 said:
Yes, I know the principle, but it's supposed that I need an inequality for $f$ in order the principle to be applied. Is it true if I say that if $f$ is non-constant, then we have $|f(z)-w|\le\epsilon$ forall $\epsilon>0$ and $z,w\in\mathbb C$ ? But I don't think if helps me.
But if you suppose that you have such a maximum you get such a desired inequality!

Ah okay so $\text{Re}(f(z))$ because $|e^{f(z)}|$ ain't bounded?

No, because $|e^{f(z)}|$ can't reach a maximum neither can $\ln(|e^{f(z)}|)=\text{Re}(f(z))$.
 
AlexYoucis said:
But if you suppose that you have such a maximum you get such a desired inequality!
Thanks you but I don't see how to conclude, I'm supposed to prove that $|f|$ can't achieve a maximum. Okay so if that if such maximum exists, then it follows the inequality (why exactly?), but if the inequality doesn't hold, then $f$ is constant, which is a contradiction.

Sorry if this doesn't make any sense, I'm trying to think on this!

AlexYoucis said:
No, because $|e^{f(z)}|$ can't reach a maximum neither can $\ln(|e^{f(z)}|)=\text{Re}(f(z))$.
Oh yes, so that concludes that $\text{Re}f(z)$ doesn't achieve its maximum.

Is it my idea or do we have a typo? I wrote $|f|,\,\text{Re}(z),\,\text{Im}(z),$ shouldn't actually be $|f|,\,\text{Re}f(z),\,\text{Im}f(z)$ ?
Thanks for the help!
 
Okay so I have this: by direct application of Maximum Modulus Principle, $|f|$ can't achieve local maximum. Now since $|e^{f(z)}|=e^{\text{Re}(f(z))},$ then $\text{Re}(f(z))$ can't achieve a local maximum. Is it enough with this? Or do I need to complete it more?

What about for $\text{Im}\,(f(z))$ ?
 
Let $f=u+iv$ where $u=\text{Re}f,v=\text{Im}f$ are real-valued, then $-if=v-iu.$ Now, if I consider $e^{-if}$ I think I could get the third part, but I don't see it yet, any help?
 

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