Proving n3 + n < 3n for n >= 4 using Mathematical Induction

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality n³ + n < 3n for all n ≥ 4 using mathematical induction. Participants are exploring the structure of the proof and the validity of their induction hypotheses.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the induction hypothesis and the steps needed to prove the statement for n = k + 1. There is uncertainty about the correct application of the induction hypothesis and whether certain assumptions are valid. Some participants suggest expanding both sides of the inequality for comparison.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proof structure, and there are multiple interpretations of the approach being taken. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the methods proposed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of proving the statement for n ≥ 4 and are questioning the validity of their assumptions and steps in the induction process.

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Homework Statement



show n3 + n < 3n for all n >= 4

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I.H : n3 + n < n for all n >= 4

3(n3 + n) < 3(3n)
then (3n+1) = 3 x 3 n
> 3((n3) + n ) by I.H
> (n+1)3 + (n+1)

if we show 3(n3 + n ) - [(n+1)3 + (n+1)] > 0 by subbin in 4 which is n >= 4, does it suffice as proof?
 
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Yes it does.
 
> 3((n3) + n ) by I.H
I am still unsure if I got it right...

I said in my induction hypothesis that, n3 + n < 3n
but while I am trying to prove that p(k+1) works for all k,
I think I am using assuming this line... which is the p(k+1) that I am trying to prove. 3(n3 + n) < 3(3n) by Induction Hypothesis.

so technically I am using what I need to prove to prove my question... ahaha
im just confused, can someone check my work please, thank you.
 
3^{n+1}=3\cdot 3^n&gt;3(n^3+n)
so you need to prove:
3(n^3+n)&gt;(n+1)^3+(n+1)
and then:
3^{n+1}&gt;(n+1)^3+(n+1)
Is this what you mean?
 
I don't see where you have proven it for n= 6.
 
ok I think i figured out the trick.
I expand both sides, but on the left side i make
n3 + n3 + n3 + 3n and compare it to the right side term by term to prove that its greater for all n > 4.

am I right with this approach?
 
Yes, you are.
 

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