Proving \sum_{i=0}^n (i-3) \geq \frac{n^2}{4} with Mathematical Induction

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \(\sum_{i=0}^n (i-3) \geq \frac{n^2}{4}\) using mathematical induction. Participants are exploring the structure of the summation and the inductive step.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the base case and is seeking guidance on how to formulate the inductive step. Some participants suggest rewriting the summation to facilitate the proof, while others clarify the terms involved in the summation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions on how to manipulate the summation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the steps needed to progress, and some participants express uncertainty about their understanding.

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There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of mathematical induction, with participants questioning how to handle the terms in the summation and the implications for the inequality being proven.

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Hi,

I need some help with mathematical induction

The question is as follows:

prove that [tex]\sum_{i=0}^n (i-3) \geq \frac{n^2}{4}[/tex]

I have shown that it holds for the base step where n=12
[tex]\frac{144}{4} = 36[/tex]
and the sum of all the i's up to 12 [tex]-3,-2,-1,0,+1,+2,+3,+4,+5,+6,+7,+8,+9 = 39[/tex]

[tex]39\geq36[/tex]

Now for the inductive step:
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n+1}[/tex]
and i know this can be rewritten, but I am not sure how
either it's [tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n} (i-3)(i-3)~~ \text{or}~~\sum_{i=0}^{n} (i-3)+(i-3)[/tex]

How do i proceed from here?
 
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i think you need
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n+1} (i-3) = ((n+1)-3) + \sum_{i=0}^{n} (i-3)[/tex]

then assuming the proposition is true for n leads to
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n+1} (i-3) = ((n+1)-3) + \sum_{i=0}^{n} (i-3) \geq ((n+1)-3) + \frac{n^2}{4}[/tex]
 
The last term, that you want to take out of the sum, has i= n+1 so i- 3= n+1-3= n- 2.

[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n+1}(i- 3)= \sum_{i=0}^n (i- 3)+ (n+1- 3)= \sum_{i=0}^n (i-3)+ n- 2[/tex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
The last term, that you want to take out of the sum, has i= n+1 so i- 3= n+1-3= n- 2.

[tex]\sum_{i=0}^{n+1}(i- 3)= \sum_{i=0}^n (i- 3)+ (n+1- 3)= \sum_{i=0}^n (i-3)+ n- 2[/tex]

Okay,
Then you have to add (n+1) to the other side of the equation as well?
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^n (i-3)+ n- 2 = \frac{(n+1)^2}{4} + (n+1)[/tex]
 
James889 said:
Okay,
Then you have to add (n+1) to the other side of the equation as well?
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^n (i-3)+ n- 2 = \frac{(n+1)^2}{4} + (n+1)[/tex]
?? No, add n- 2 to other side as well!
 
HallsofIvy said:
?? No, add n- 2 to other side as well!

Haha, I am so bad at this, it's almost funny :biggrin:
 

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