Proving the Circle's Connectedness Using Projection and Open Covers

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The discussion revolves around the connectedness of the circle \( S^1 \) and the implications of using projections in topology, specifically regarding the decomposition of open sets and the properties of homeomorphisms. Participants explore the relationship between open covers, disjoint unions, and the continuity of the projection function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that \( S^1 \) is path connected and questions how it can be decomposed into disjoint open sets.
  • Another participant clarifies that the decomposition refers to the preimage under the projection \( p \), which results in disjoint open sets in \( \mathbb{R} \), not \( S^1 \).
  • There is a discussion about the nature of disjoint unions, with one participant noting that disjointness is not a requirement for the union of open sets.
  • A participant questions whether the projection function \( p \) preserves connectedness, given its definition in terms of trigonometric functions.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the interpretation of the phrase "each of which is mapped homeomorphically," with emphasis on the individual sets in the union being mapped to \( U_\alpha \).
  • Another participant expresses a realization about the periodic nature of the open sets and acknowledges the need for careful reading of the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that \( S^1 \) is path connected and that the projection function plays a significant role in the discussion. However, there is disagreement regarding the implications of the decomposition into disjoint open sets and the continuity of the projection function, leaving the discussion unresolved on these points.

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Participants express uncertainty about the continuity of the projection function and its implications for connectedness. There are also unresolved questions about the definitions and properties of disjoint unions in the context of open sets.

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We shall prove (c) using just one special property of the projection p :R -> S1 ,
namely:
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There is an open cover {U_alpha} of S1 such that for each alpha, p^(-1) („U …_alpha) can be
decomposed as a disjoint union of open sets each of which is mapped homeomorphically
onto U _alpha by p.

For example, we could take the cover {U_alpha} to consist of any two open arcs in S1
whose union is S1 .

This is from Hatcher's Algebraic Topology, page 30.

I thought that the circle, S1 is path connected. How then can it be decomposed into the disjoint union of open sets? Furthermore, how can two disjoint open arcs in S1 be the have S1 as their union? What happened to the boundary of the two open sets?

Thanks.
 
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PhysicalAnomaly said:
I thought that the circle, S1 is path connected.

It is. Therefore, it's connected.

How then can it be decomposed into the disjoint union of open sets?

It can't. Reread the snippet carefully. You take a cover of S1, then run it backwards through p. The result is two disjoint open sets in R (not S1!).

You might think "well, p is continuous and connectedness is a topological property?" But that doesn't matter because p^-1 is not continuous.
 
Also note that a disjoint union of open sets A and B does not, in general, require that A and B be disjoint, although, as Tac-Tics has noted, in this case the inverse image of an open arc in S1 is the union of disjoint open subsets of R.
 
But p was defined to be p(s)=(cos 2*pi*s, sin 2*pi*s). Doesn't that mean that the preimage of a cover in S1 must cover an interval in R? Also, it says that each p-1(U_alpha) was mapped homeomorphically to U_alpha by p. Doesn't that mean that connectedness must be preserved by the inverse function?

<quote>Also note that a disjoint union of open sets A and B does not, in general, require that A and B be disjoint</quote>

That makes sense! So that means that the use of disjoint here is redundant since when you take a union, you never choose the same element twice. Am I right?
 
PhysicalAnomaly said:
Also, it says that each p-1(U_alpha) was mapped homeomorphically to U_alpha by p.

No, it doesn't say this. :smile:
 
I'm probably interpreting this wrongly but doesn't it say:

disjoint union of open sets each of which is mapped homeomorphically
onto U _alpha by p.

Thanks for being so patient.
 
"each of which" refers to the individual sets whose union is being taken.

If

p^{-1} \left[ U_\alpha \right] = A_1 \cup A_2 \cup ...,

then each A_i is mapped homeomorphically onto U_\alpha.
 
You're right! That makes so much more sense now! The disjoint open sets would then just be the periodic repeats of the arcs. I need to read more carefully. Thank you so much - you've made my day! :)
 

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