Proving the Theorem If m divides n, then m <= n Using Different Methods

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The discussion revolves around proving the theorem "If m divides n, then m <= n" using various methods such as direct proof, mathematical induction, contraposition, or contradiction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different approaches to the proof, including examining cases for k (the integer such that m = nk). Questions arise about how to transition from equality to inequality, particularly when k equals 1 or is greater than 1.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide insights and clarifications, suggesting that if k is greater than 1, it implies certain relationships between m and n. There is an acknowledgment of confusion and a collaborative effort to clarify the logical steps involved in the proof.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the proof after establishing the equality case, indicating a need for further exploration of the implications of k's value.

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Homework Statement



Prove a theorem using direct proof, mathematical induction, contraposition, or contradiction.

Homework Equations



"If m divides n, then m <= n."

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Suppose m divides n, then m = nk for some integer k.

(b) If k = 1, the m = n(1) = n.

That show equality part. How do I now show inequality? I'm at a loss for the next step.
 
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If k is not 1, then, since it is a positive integer, k>1. What does that tell you?
 
Given that, for k=1, m = n,

then for k > 1 (or k + 1),

m < n(k + 1).

If I divide by k + 1,

m / (k + 1) < n.

Am I on the right track?
 
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SurferStrobe said:

Homework Statement



Prove a theorem using direct proof, mathematical induction, contraposition, or contradiction.

Homework Equations



"If m divides n, then m <= n."

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) Suppose m divides n, then m = nk for some integer k.

(b) If k = 1, the m = n(1) = n.

That show equality part. How do I now show inequality? I'm at a loss for the next step.

If m divides n (m<=n), then m*k=n and not m=n*k.

If k=1, m=n, if k>1,

mk=n => m<n.
 
You're right! I missed that completely!
 
Sleek, Thanks! I guess I got that twisted. Appreciate your helping me understand this logically.

surferstrobe
 

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