Puerto Rico: A Complex Political Status Explained

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The discussion revolves around the political status of Puerto Rico, exploring whether it is a state, a republic, a nation, or a colony. Participants express varying perspectives on the implications of its commonwealth status, self-rule, and the rights and responsibilities associated with it.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe Puerto Rico as a commonwealth of the US that enjoys self-rule but lacks full state rights.
  • Others argue that Puerto Rico functions as a colony, highlighting the limitations on its rights, such as voting representation and control over its own affairs.
  • A participant expresses frustration with the ongoing debate about Puerto Rico's status, suggesting that it should either become a state or pursue independence.
  • Concerns are raised about the education system in Puerto Rico, with claims that history is poorly taught, particularly regarding its political status.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about the lack of awareness regarding Puerto Rico's status among people from other countries.
  • There is a mention of famous Puerto Rican figures and their views on American relations, illustrating the complexity of identity and political sentiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on Puerto Rico's political status or the best path forward. Some agree on the colonial aspects of its commonwealth status, while others defend its current arrangement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of Puerto Rico's political situation, including the implications of its commonwealth status and the lack of voting representation in Congress. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and personal experiences related to Puerto Rico's identity.

  • #31
Dagenais said:
the laws are different.

Not only are the laws different, the entire legal system in Quebec is different than in the rest of Canada.
 
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  • #32
fisipavia said:
OH I'm sorry I thought that you being from US, "the great defensor of democracy", would think that those rights applied to everybody.

And now I'll do like Monique: A little history lesson.

PR was invaded in 1898 by US some months after Spain finally approved our autonomy. We first have a military occupation, and then all of our governors were nombrated by the US. In 1948 we elected our first governor EVER. And yes, the people vote in favor of our constitution (commonwealth) during the period of ruling of this governor. That was the first time that we were able "to vote". But of course our constitution couldn't speak of none of the areas controlled by the congress. Let me put it this way. If you are really, really locked is some small place, and someone offers you to let you walk 1 feet out from your cage, won't you accept it?
and in fact,for that time it WAS a great thing, but since then nothing more has happened.

And don't call us parasites, because you will never force a parasite inside of your body. The citizenship was gave to us in 1917, nobody asked for it, it was just imposed. ja,ja... 1917... first world war...citizen...so you must go and fight in the war... but of course you cannot vote... as watters said.."you are not a contry" but fight...sure you can!

We have been taught that americans are superiors and that is why so many puertoricans want to be americans. I think that we must remember that no culture is inferior! Here is an example.

My grandfather spend a week in jail because when he was call to make the obligatory military service and they talk to him in english he said that we didn't know english because he wasn't american.

I do think that our major problem is the mentality that we have that we must be "protected" by some major potency. But this mentality comes from our history. We have been a colony for 511 years! Since the arrivals of the Spanish

Historically we have been oppresed and that's not a fantasy of mine... that's the truth. And you know why we depend so much in the US?... because as I say before we cannot have international relations or commerce, only with the US, we are not able to make cooperations treaties!... recently there has been founded an Association for the countries of the Caribbean and we cannot participate on it.

And don't call us parasites because I studied and work as much as you do.
Sweetie Pie, mommy and daddy have decided to cut you loose. Daddy thinks your an ingrate and mommy, well mommy, she's just tired of your friggin whining.
 

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