Pythagorean Theorem: Proving it with Maths

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Pythagorean theorem, specifically seeking proofs and explanations of the theorem. Participants share various resources and personal insights related to mathematical proofs, including historical references and personal experiences with understanding the theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for proofs of the Pythagorean theorem, indicating a lack of understanding despite frequent use.
  • Another participant shares a link to a collection of 72 different proofs, suggesting a wealth of resources available for exploration.
  • A historical note is made regarding a proof attributed to James Garfield, with a humorous remark about his presidency.
  • Links to specific proofs, including one by Bhaskara and one by Euclid, are provided by participants, highlighting different approaches to the theorem.
  • A participant describes a personal proof they devised while on a plane, detailing a geometric approach involving subdivisions of a square.
  • Another participant reflects on their experience of rediscovering Bhaskara's proof and emphasizes the importance of understanding the problem-solving process.
  • Expressions of personal aspirations regarding the ability to create original proofs are shared, indicating a desire for deeper mathematical engagement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants share various proofs and resources without a clear consensus on a single preferred proof. The discussion includes both agreement on the value of the resources shared and differing personal experiences with understanding the theorem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference historical figures and events related to the proofs, which may introduce additional context but does not resolve the mathematical discussions. The proofs mentioned vary in complexity and approach, reflecting a range of understanding and methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the Pythagorean theorem, its proofs, and historical context may find this discussion valuable, particularly those looking to deepen their understanding of mathematical concepts.

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I have used the pythagorean theorem quite frequently yet have never have it proved for me. I tried to do so myself but as i suck at maths i was unsuccessful. Any links proving it would be apppreciated.
 
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Note that the fifth proof was due to American president James Garfield. Probably the only thing he did of any importance! (Other than getting assassinated and making Theodore Roosevelt president.)
 
Thankyou all very much.

Just been reading some of them. Bhaskara's proof is excellent.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Note that the fifth proof was due to American president James Garfield. Probably the only thing he did of any importance! (Other than getting assassinated and making Theodore Roosevelt president.)

actually, it was mckinley's assassination that gave us Teddy's first term of office. Chester Arthur was Garfield's successor.
 
subdivide a square of side c, into 4 equal parts by the two diagonals. note this gives a simple case of the theorem, when a=b, since the area of the square is c^2 and the areas of the 4 triangles is 2 a^2. i.e. a^2 + a^2 = c^2.

now change the angle of the lines subdividing the square, until they leave a small square in the center, with 4 right triangles around it of sides a,b,c.

then the small square in the center has area (b-a)^2, and the 4 triangles have total area 2ab, so the sum of 2ab and (b-a)^2 must equal c^2.

QED.

i found this proof sitting on the plane for a while with a small scrap of paper, (and not playing with a calculator).
 
apparently i rediscovered bhaskara's proof, but my remark on the special case shows you how to think of it, which he does not.

notice the reason I am able to tell you how to think of it, is that i did think of it myself, and did not just read it and memorize it.

notice also that my example illustartes a basic principle in problem solving: i.,e. MAKE THE PROBLEM EASIER. then solve the easier problem and try again to use what you learned on the harder one.
 
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The day i can make my own proofs i will be very happy.
 
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Doodle Bob said:
actually, it was mckinley's assassination that gave us Teddy's first term of office. Chester Arthur was Garfield's successor.

I knew that! Apparently I'm better at math than I am at history!
 

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