Quasars - how do they emerge from black holes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the emergence of quasars from black holes, specifically addressing the apparent contradiction between the nature of black holes and the jets associated with quasars. The scope includes conceptual understanding and theoretical implications related to black holes and quasars.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how quasars can be associated with black holes, given the belief that nothing can escape from them.
  • Another participant suggests that the gas involved in the formation of quasars never crosses the event horizon of the black hole.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that quasars originate in matter-rich environments, such as very young galaxies, where matter is torn apart as it approaches the black hole, releasing significant energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations regarding the relationship between black holes and quasars, particularly concerning the behavior of gas near the event horizon.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of black holes and the conditions under which quasars form remain unresolved, particularly regarding the mechanics of gas interaction with the event horizon.

C_Dawg
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According to everything I've read and heard (as a non-scientist), nothing can come out of a black hole.

However, on a couple of documentaries I've seen on the Nat Geo channel in the last week, the astronomers talk about quasars as being massive jets that come out of black holes, because the black holes can't contain all the gas that gets sucked into them.

This doesn't make sense to me - if "nothing" can escape, then how does a quasar do it?
 
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simple. the gas never enters the event horizon
 
Quasars are thought to originate in matter rich environments [very young galaxies]. Matter streaming into the central black hole is torn apart as it approached the event horizon releasing vast amounts of energy.
 
Thanks for your replies - I understand it now.
 

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