Black Holes & Galaxies: How Do They Work Together?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between black holes and galaxy formation, specifically exploring how black holes may contribute to the structure and dynamics of galaxies. The conversation touches on theoretical ideas about quasars and their role in the early universe, as well as the guidelines for discussing personal theories versus mainstream scientific understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a theory that black holes and quasars contribute to the formation of galaxies by creating a line of matter that eventually spins into spiral structures.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the forum adheres to mainstream scientific principles and discourages personal theories and speculation.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the forum's restrictions on personal theories, questioning the nature of the forum itself.
  • Further clarification is provided about the forum's mission to discuss science as understood by the professional community, suggesting that understanding current ideas is essential before proposing new ones.
  • One participant inquires about other forums where personal theories can be discussed, indicating a desire for a space that allows for more speculative dialogue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of discussing personal theories in the forum. While some adhere to the forum's guidelines emphasizing mainstream science, others seek a platform for more speculative discussions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the acceptance of personal theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of the forum's focus on established scientific understanding, which may restrict discussions on emerging or personal theories. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a solid foundation in current scientific concepts before exploring new ideas.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the intersection of black holes and galaxy formation, as well as those curious about the guidelines for scientific discourse in online forums.

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I have been thinking of how black holes help form galaxies and have come up with this idea. Now I will assume everyone who reads this knows about how black holes and quasars work.

Now if you can imagine a quasar in the beginning, ie. Without the galaxy as we know it now. Just a powerful quasar. That matter coming out from both the black holes poles forms a sort of line in space. Now with the natural conservation of energy over time that line spins in space until it becomes the spiral in galaxies as we know them today.

Does anyone know what I'm trying to say here? Does anyone know if this has been thought of before. Thanx..
 
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Galaxy formation is an active research topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_formation_and_evolution

In addition, PF rules do not allow personal theories or too much speculation. We stick to mainstream science.

If you want to know more about galaxy formation feel free to discuss it here, but please keep the personal opinion and speculation out of it.
 
Wow, this forum does not allow personal theories or speculation? Ok, I can respect that, but then this isn't a real forum right? So what exactly is this place. I'm not being smart I really am curious what this place is. Lol

Also does anyone know the name of a sci forum where you can exchange ideas & theories. Thnx in advance
 
twisted-outcast said:
Wow, this forum does not allow personal theories or speculation?

It does not. Per the rules page:

Mission Statement:

Our mission is to provide a place for people (whether students, professional scientists, or others interested in science) to learn and discuss science as it is currently generally understood and practiced by the professional scientific community. As our name suggests, our main focus is on physics, but we also have forums for most other academic areas including engineering, chemistry, biology, social sciences, etc.
twisted-outcast said:
Ok, I can respect that, but then this isn't a real forum right?

Of course it is. You wouldn't go into a forum that caters to Ford owners and then bash them because they won't let you discuss your Chevy or Toyota would you? We cater to those people wishing to discuss mainstream science, not to those who wish to discuss personal theories and speculation.

twisted-outcast said:
So what exactly is this place. I'm not being smart I really am curious what this place is.

As the mission statement says, PF exists to teach people about science and physics as the professional scientific community understands and practices it. This gives you the best shot at learning real-world science and its applications. The prevailing idea around here is that you need to know the current ideas and how they work before you can come up with new ideas. In other words, you have to know where the box is if you want to think outside of it. Otherwise you just end up spouting off nonsense inside a dark corner of the box and never realize it.

Besides, what better way to learn than from people who actually work in, or are involved with, the professional scientific community that has developed practically every scientific and technological advancement in the past century or two.

twisted-outcast said:
Also does anyone know the name of a sci forum where you can exchange ideas & theories. Thnx in advance

I can't say I do. I'm sure google could bring up plenty though.

Since it looks like there will be no discussion about mainstream science in this thread I'm going to go ahead and lock it. Feel free to message myself or another mentor if you have any other questions.
 
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