Queensday Tragedy in Apeldoorn: Car Rams Crowd

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The discussion centers around the tragic incident during the Queensday celebrations in Apeldoorn, where a car drove into a crowd, resulting in multiple fatalities and injuries. Participants express their shock and sadness over the event, while speculating on the motivations behind the driver's actions and the implications of the incident being broadcast live.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the significance of the day being both a national holiday and Evo's birthday, highlighting the context of the tragedy.
  • There are conflicting reports on the number of fatalities, with some participants stating 4 and others updating it to 5, including a pregnant woman among the deceased.
  • Speculation arises regarding the driver's motivations, with some suggesting personal issues like job loss and impending eviction, while others question the adequacy of such motives for the act.
  • Participants express concern over the impact of the event being broadcast live, emphasizing the emotional toll on witnesses and the broader public.
  • There is a shared sentiment of sadness and sympathy for the victims and their families, with many participants reflecting on the senselessness of the violence.
  • Some participants express disbelief and horror at the nature of the incident, describing it as a shocking disruption of a festive occasion.
  • The discussion includes references to external sources for further information, indicating a desire for more context about the events.
  • One participant mentions that the offender died from injuries, suggesting that the motivations may remain unclear.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the tragic nature of the event and express condolences for the victims. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the motivations behind the driver's actions and the implications of the incident, leaving the discussion unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the full context of the driver's motivations, as well as the emotional and psychological impact on witnesses and the community, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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So it's not only Evo's birthday, it's also the late queens Juliana's birthday, a national holiday, maintained by the currently reigning queen of the Netherlands, Beatrix.

One of the festivities is a big tour of the Royal Family, mingling with the minions, in Apeldoorn this year. The Palace Het Loo was centerpoint (a golden fountain of which has been in the landmark game).

This year however, things went wrong. A lunatic drove a car into the cheering crowd obviously attemting to bash into the Royal Bus with queen and family inside. That didn't work but there are several casualties, which ended the festivities abruptly.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article1191100.ece/Drama_tijdens_optocht_Beatrix See the Youtube clip.
 
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Yeah, two dead already and 12 injured, a few of which severely.
I sincerely hope that it didn't happen on purpose. If it really was an attack it was very badly done (if you want to hit someone, you use an armoured car with explosives instead of an old Suzuki, driving straight into a monument afterwards) but as far as I understand there are some indications (for example, the car following the route of the royal family exactly).

Anyway, I planned on going into town later today but I don't really feel like that anymore. I am sorry for the families of the victims and all the bystanders who witnessed it, and I hope the 15:45 press conference will make it more clear what happened.
 
This is really sad, I feel for the family and friends of the victims who had to witness this tragedy. I hope the injured will make a full recovery. What was the guy thinking?
 
Thats such a sad thing to happen at such a event. I'm very sorry for all who are effected by it.
 
That is really sad.
 
I knew that it was bad, but I hadn't seen the footage yet...

YouTube link (WARNING: not suitable for the faint of heart)

Can you imagine what this caused when this happened with thousands of people there AND it was broadcast live on national television?

Normally I'm not really affected by such events, but somehow I keep thinking about it... really makes me a bit sad.
 
It's very sad that one individual would act in such a way.

I read that there were 4 fatalities.
 
Just read an update pushing the fatalities to 5, with a dozen or more injured. Apparently the driver recently lost his job and was about to be evicted, but that hardly seems sufficient motive for murder. What a sad day.
 
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I read that there were 4 fatalities.
Make that 5, and several still in critical condition. One of the fatalities was a pregnant woman who died on the street, really sad. Such a senseless act of violence. The fact that it was broadcasted live on national television brought it into the living room of many people.
 
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Absolutely terrible.
 
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The video is really disturbing. So many people enjoying the day, the parade, the nice weather...and then this guy comes out of nowhere...ugh, really horrible.
 
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The offender died this morning from his injuries. So the exact reasons why, will never be answered.