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The discussion revolves around dimensional analysis of equations in physics, specifically focusing on determining the dimensional correctness of given equations and the dimensions of constants in volume equations. Participants are examining two main problems related to dimensional consistency and the implications of various units.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are analyzing the dimensional correctness of equations involving trigonometric functions and constants. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of variables and their units, particularly in the context of the cosine function and the dimensions of constants in volume equations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions behind the variables used in the equations. Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and units of the variables, while others provide insights into the nature of trigonometric functions and their dimensional properties. A few participants suggest potential answers based on their interpretations, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note that the original problem statements lack clarity regarding the definitions and units of certain variables, which complicates the analysis. There is also mention of a potential answer for the second question, but it remains a point of contention.

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1) Which of the equations below is dimension-
ally correct?
a. y = (2 m) cos(k x), k = 2 m-1
b. v = v0 + a x

my work for:
a) cos(kx) = 2ym-1
So this would lead to k = (1/x)cos-1(2ym-1)

But i don't know whether the COSINE operation on RHS changes m-1 to any other unit or not. So, please help me with that.

b) in this case i thought that the presence of two unknown quantities with unknown units on the RHS would mean that the dimension of "v" is correct or not. So i would say it cannot be determined


2) The volume of an object is given as a func-
tion of time by V = A+(B/t)+Ct4. Determine
the dimension of the constant C.
1. L2/T4
2. L4/T3
3. L3/T4
4. L/T
5. L/T4

My work:

V = A+(B/t)+Ct4
so, V=A+(B+Ct5/t)
or, C= {[(V-A)t]-B}/t5

Which i thought would give the dimension for C as L/T4. But i am not sure at all so please help.
 
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ashimb9 said:
1) Which of the equations below is dimension-
ally correct?
a. y = (2 m) cos(k x), k = 2 m-1

Sorry I don't understand your use of m in this equation. Are you intending that m is some unit like mass?

ashimb9 said:
b. v = v0 + a x
Again what is the units of a? Are you meaning acceleration here? Is V units of velocity? If a is supposed to be x/t2 and v in units of x/t then no the equation is not consistent as the last term is apparently x2/t2 and not x/t.
ashimb9 said:
2) The volume of an object is given as a func-
tion of time by V = A+(B/t)+Ct4. Determine
the dimension of the constant C.
1. L2/T4
2. L4/T3
3. L3/T4
4. L/T
5. L/T4

Here doesn't each term have to be in units of volume? Doesn't that require the last term Ct4 to be in units of L3?
 
see that is the question. i posted them as is, without ANY modification and that's the same thing i thght. what does "a" and other variables mean and what are their units. nothing is given.
 
ashimb9 said:
see that is the question. i posted them as is, without ANY modification and that's the same thing i thght. what does "a" and other variables mean and what are their units. nothing is given.

That may be true for question 1. But your answer to question 2 is apparently figured incorrectly.
 
apparently the rite answer for the second question was 3 which is L3/T4. apparently the first one is the correct one in the first question. well thanks for helpin out
 
My guess is that in 1a, the use of "m" is intended to be meters. The use of m^-1 in the given value of k seems to indicate this.

I'd like to point out something that you may have forgotten from trig. Sine/Cosine, etc are dimensionless functions. They have no dimensions. Remember their definitions from triangles.

Sine(theta) = opposite side / hypotenuse
Cos(theta) = adjacent side / hypotenuse
etc

In any ratio like this the numerator (top) units will cancel the denominator (bottom) units. So it doesn't matter if the triangle sides will be measured in feet, meters, inches, thumb widths, etc. The units will always cancel and the answer (a ratio) will be the same for all units.

So you can ignore the cosine in 1a and use just what's out front. BUT...You DO have to take into account if the quantity inside the () of the cosine come out to radians. Sometimes the convention is not to explicitely type out radians in the units because radians is itself defined as a ratio. So I would check that "kx" comes out with no units in order to be correct for inside the cosine.
 

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