Question regarding decay, protons and neutrons

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving radioactive decay, specifically focusing on the elements Fakium, Imaginium, and Madeupium. The original poster presents a scenario where Fakium is known to be radioactive, and participants explore which of the other two elements could be its decay product while also calculating the half-life of Fakium based on mass measurements over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential decay products of Fakium, with some suggesting Madeupium based on its proton count. Questions arise regarding the types of radioactive decay and their relevance to the problem. There is also exploration of how to calculate remaining mass given initial amounts and half-life.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on decay types and engaging in clarifying questions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of remaining mass and the types of decay, but no consensus has been reached on the decay product or the specific calculations needed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of radioactive decay, including the implications of proton and neutron counts in different elements. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the types of decay and the calculations involved, with some expressions of uncertainty regarding the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


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You find a 1kg piece of rock containing 3 elements:
Fakium with 50 protons and 52 neutrons
imaginium with 52 protons and 48 neutrons
madeupium with 51 protons and 51 neutrons
Fakium is known to be radio active, Which of the other two elements could be the decay product and why?
On January 1st 2016 at 9am, you take a piece of the rock into the lab and measure that it is comprised of 0.5kg of fakium, 0.2kg imaginium, and 0.3kg madeupium. Exactly 24 hours later, you do the same measurement and find that the mass of fakium is now 0.48kg. What is the half life of fakium?
How long will it take until there is only 0.1kg of fakium left in the rock??

Homework Equations


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t½=ln2
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λ

The Attempt at a Solution


Im dying over here but I know I can do this. If anyone is willing to help me I am willing to help myself too.
I believe Madeupium would be the decay product because it has decayed to 51 protons.
Im still working on the rest smh...
 
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Which types of radioactive decay do you know? Which one could be relevant here?
ezach1 said:
I believe Madeupium would be the decay product because it has decayed to 51 protons.
What about the neutrons?
ezach1 said:
Im still working on the rest smh...
If you know the initial amount and the half-life, how can you calculate how much is left after some time t? The same formula works for the other direction, known remaning mass but unknown half-life.
 
The neutrons are the same for madeupium, but imaginium has 52 protons
 
mfb said:
Which types of radioactive decay do you know? Which one could be relevant here?
.

Im not quite sure what you mean??
 
ezach1 said:
The neutrons are the same for madeupium
51 and 52 are the same?
ezach1 said:
Im not quite sure what you mean??
I'm not sure how that question can be unclear.
 
Gamma, Alpha , Beta..
51 and 52 arent the same...i apologize
 
It can't be beta decay because the protons are higher in both elements
 
ezach1 said:
It can't be beta decay because the protons are higher in both elements
There are two types of beta decay.

(You can edit your posts if you want to add something, by the way).
 
mfb said:
There are two types of beta decay.

(You can edit your posts if you want to add something, by the way).
Gotcha...beta plus and minus.
 
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i say its madeupium and I believe it has undergone beta 4 decay.The numbers of protons and neutrons in an atom's nucleus change during beta decay, the total number of particles (protons + neutrons) remains the same.
 
  • #11
Correct.
 
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thanks for your help...you wouldn't believe how much it means to me..

Now for the second part...this ones a doozy..I don't even know which equation would be best. I see Log, etc.

t/½= ln2/λ
 
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  • #13
See above.
mfb said:
If you know the initial amount and the half-life, how can you calculate how much is left after some time t? The same formula works for the other direction, known remaning mass but unknown half-life.
 

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