Questions about perpetual machines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of perpetual machines, particularly focusing on whether a hypothetical machine that claims to utilize gravity can be classified as a perpetual machine. The conversation touches on the implications of such claims and the nature of discussions surrounding perpetual motion machines (PMMs).

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question if a machine that claims to have the characteristics of a perpetual machine and relies on gravity can indeed be called a perpetual machine.
  • One participant emphasizes that a machine claiming to have all the characteristics of a PMM is, by definition, a PMM, regardless of the mechanisms it employs.
  • There is a mention of a misunderstanding regarding the title of the thread, indicating that the initial question may have been misinterpreted.
  • Another participant expresses frustration over the closure of previous threads and suggests that the staff could have moved the discussion instead of closing it.
  • One participant notes that the thread has been moved to a different section due to the lack of specific claims or evidence regarding perpetual motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the classification of the hypothetical machine as a perpetual machine. There are differing views on the implications of claims made about such machines and the handling of thread closures.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the absence of specific examples or evidence of perpetual motion, and the definitions of terms like "perpetual machine" may vary among participants.

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If there was a machine that claimed to have all the characteristics of such a machine and relied on gravity, can it be called a perpetual machine?
 
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and by the way, whoever closed my thread, umm...if you weren't so trigger-happy you could have simply moved it to the appropriate section. :)
 
The post will be closed here also...
 
are you serious? do UFOs exist?

And I'm not even suggesting that there is such a thing as a perpetual machine. Please just read my question first. I understand now that the title is misleading. NOTICE THE IF.
 
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linux kid said:
If there was a machine that claimed to have all the characteristics of such a machine and relied on gravity, can it be called a perpetual machine?
A machine that has all the characteristics of a PMM is a PMM. A machine that claims to have all these characteristics, claims to be a PMM. Whether it uses gravity or carrier pigeons is irrelevant.

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FYI, even though the thread is closed, since there is no specific claim of an unexplained phenomenon, or evidence of perpetual motion, I have moved it to GD.
 

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