Questions in the quantum theory of radiation

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The discussion revolves around questions in quantum optics and the quantum theory of radiation, specifically addressing the construction of static electric fields using photons, the relationship between photon spin and polarization, and the spatial and temporal extension of photons.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a DC field can be constructed using photons, suggesting that a constant electric field can be set up by a superposition of photons.
  • Another participant asserts that a DC field has no photons, while also stating that a linear polarized field can be constructed as a coherent combination of right and left circularly polarized fields.
  • There is a claim that photons do not have a "size" and cannot be localized, with a reference to the earlier discussion on the "size of the photon."
  • One participant proposes that an electric field consists of photons with infinite wavelength.
  • A later reply challenges the assertion that a DC field has no photons, arguing that photons can exist in a field that is redshifted to the point of being effectively DC.
  • Participants discuss the spatial extension of photons, with one noting that the single photon number state confines the spatial extension to the dimensions of the cavity in which the field is quantized.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the existence of photons in a DC field, with some asserting that photons can exist in such a field while others maintain that they cannot. The discussion remains unresolved on this point, as well as on the implications of photon spin and polarization.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms like "DC field" and "spatial extension," as well as the assumptions made about the nature of photons and their interactions with electric fields.

Abu Abdallah
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I have several questions in quantum optics or the quantum theory of radiaition. I begin by the following three questions:

How can a DC field ( static field) be constructed using photons ??

If the spin of photons is related to circular polarization of the constructing fields. How can linear polarized fields be constructed using photons.

What is the temporal and spatial exension of photons? The single photon number state makes the spatial extension of the photon bounded only by the dimensions of the cavity in which we quantize the field !
 
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First of all, read the "size of the photon" thread earlier. Photons don't have a "size" since you cannot localize a photon.

I'm not sure what you mean by a DC field? A constant electric field is set up by a superposition of photons that yield that field. Write down a general linear superposition of photon number states, write down the electric field operator, and calculate what the coefficients have to be to yield that [tex]\langle \mathbf{E} \rangle[/tex] is a constant.

As for the spin of the photon, I think I'll punt on that one and let someone else explain, since I'm a little fuzzy myself about how photon spin works.
 
An electric field consists of photons with infinite wavelength.
 
Abu Abdallah said:
I have several questions in quantum optics or the quantum theory of radiaition. I begin by the following three questions:

How can a DC field ( static field) be constructed using photons ??

If the spin of photons is related to circular polarization of the constructing fields. How can linear polarized fields be constructed using photons.

What is the temporal and spatial exension of photons? The single photon number state makes the spatial extension of the photon bounded only by the dimensions of the cavity in which we quantize the field !
1. A DC field has no photons.
2. A linear polarized field is a coherent linear combination of R and L fields, classically or QMly.
3. In terms of QED, the photon is a point particle.
The spatial extension is of the wave function of the photon.
 
Meir Achuz said:
1. A DC field has no photons.

I disagree. Show me any EM field that contains photons. I will then redshift it as far as you please to render it DC. Do the photons disappear? Of course not! Their wavelength approaches infinity, that's all.
 

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