Quick idea on the make-up of matter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of matter and its relationship with energy, exploring whether matter could exist in a dual state of energy and matter rather than being composed of point particles or strings. Participants engage with the implications of this idea, touching on concepts like wave-particle duality and dimensionality in theoretical physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that matter might not be made of point particles or strings, suggesting it exists in a state of energy and matter.
  • Others challenge this idea, questioning its coherence and meaning, with one participant likening it to a nonsensical statement.
  • There are assertions that matter is always in a state of matter and energy, but this is met with skepticism regarding its significance.
  • A participant expresses that the concept lacks specificity and does not provide a clear theoretical framework or predictions related to physical processes.
  • Some participants express the need for more concrete ideas rather than vague assertions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity and clarity of the initial idea regarding matter and energy. There is no consensus on the proposed concept, with significant skepticism expressed about its meaningfulness.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the lack of specificity in the initial claims and the need for a more rigorous theoretical approach. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the nature of matter and energy.

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I'm just throwing out and idea when I say this, but what if matter isn't made up of point particles or 1 dimensional strings at all? What if matter is constantly in a state of energy and matter? This would eliminate the 11 dimensions needed for m-theory,which would keep us at the good ol' 4 dimensions that we all know and love, and is very much like the idea of wave-particle duality. The math is already there, e=mc^2, why not put the conversion to work? Again, just throwing thoughts out there, so feedback on why this wouldn't work would be wonderful.
 
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What if matter is constantly in a state of energy and matter?
Or, on the other hand, what if energy is constantly in a state of matter and energy? You're not making any sense.
 
I'm no expert (obviosuly), but Bill_K is right, this doesn't make any sense. CIANSA is basically saying, "What if apples were really apples and oranges?" What is that supposed to mean?
 
I'm just saying that matter isn't ever really just matter, it is ALWAYS in a state of matter and energy.
 
CIANSA said:
I'm just saying that matter isn't ever really just matter, it is ALWAYS in a state of matter and energy.

Yes, I think everyone gets what you are saying, what YOU don't seem to get is that it isn't particularly meaningful.
 
It might explain the complete make-up of matter, instead of using 0 dimensional point particles or 1 dimensional lines.
 
CIANSA said:
It might explain the complete make-up of matter, instead of using 0 dimensional point particles or 1 dimensional lines.

Yes, and unicorns might exist, but as far as I know, they don't.

You are going to have to come up with a LOT more than just throwing some words together to get anyone to take this seriously.
 
I know, I was just wondering if it was even a possibility.
 
CIANSA said:
I know, I was just wondering if it was even a possibility.

Is WHAT a possiblity? You have thrown out some words in a way that doesn't seem to make sense and you have not offered any actual theory.

Look I'm NOT trying to give you a hard time on this but you really are just tossing out words. You need to be a LOT more specific about what it is that you think could be happening.
 
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I'm just thinking about the possibility that matter exists in a matter-energy duality of sorts and if it appears as matter or energy at a given time is completely dependent on the situation, much like wave-particle duality.
 
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No.
Matter always has energy, but energy does not have to be "matter" with the common meaning of that word.

In addition, your statements are just words. Can you show how your concepts would/might change/influence/predict any physical process?
Physics is not philosophy.
 
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