Race between a Speedy Tortoise and a Resting Hare

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The problem involves a race between a tortoise and a hare, where the tortoise runs at a speed of 10 cm/s and the hare runs at 20 times that speed but takes a 2-minute rest. The tortoise wins the race by a distance of 20 cm. The questions posed are about determining the total time of the race and the length of the race.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on the speeds of the tortoise and hare, considering the hare's resting time and the distance difference at the finish line. There is a focus on how to relate the time taken by both racers to their respective distances.

Discussion Status

Some participants are following the initial setup of equations and are attempting to clarify their understanding of the relationships between the variables involved. There is an acknowledgment of the approach taken by one participant, and they are considering substituting one equation into another to solve for time.

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Participants express some confusion about how to set up the problem correctly and are seeking clarification on the relationships between the distances and times of the tortoise and hare. There is an emphasis on ensuring the equations accurately reflect the conditions of the race.

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Homework Statement



Speedy tortoise can run 10cm/s, and a hare can run 20 times as fast. In a race, they both start at the same time, but the hare stops to rest for 2 minutes. The tortoise wins the race by a shell (20cm). A)How long does the race take? B)What is the length of the race.

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For some reason I am lost on how to set up this problem. I keep wanting to use motion in 1 dimension with constant acceleration but I cannot come up with the answers given in the book. A step by step explanationj on how to solve this type of question would be awesome.

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This question is probably a little simpler than you're trying to make it.

Okay, let's start by writing down what we know. Suppose that the length of the track is L and the time taken for the tortoise to complete that race, T, such that

v = \frac{dx}{dt}\Rightarrow 10 = \frac{L}{T}

Next we have the hare's information. We know that the hare stops of 2 minutes or 120 seconds, so the total time the hare is running is T-120. We also know that when the tortoise is at the finish line (x=L), the hare is 20cm behind him, i.e. x=L-20. Finally, we know that the hare can run at 20x10 cm/s. Hence,

v = \frac{dx}{dt}\Rightarrow 200 = \frac{L-20}{T-120}

Do you follow?
 
Ok I think I follow you. When I was trying to come up with my equations I was taking the hare's distance to be equal to the tortoise's distance minus 20cm. SO should I take those equations and solve one for (T)ime and then put that equation into the other one?
 
scottzilla said:
When I was trying to come up with my equations I was taking the hare's distance to be equal to the tortoise's distance minus 20cm.
That's exactly what I've done with my set of equations, L-20
scottzilla said:
SO should I take those equations and solve one for (T)ime and then put that equation into the other one?
Sounds good to me :approve:
 

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