Raising operator for s in |s,m> states

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the existence of collective spin operators that can raise or lower the quantum number s in the |s,m> spin states. Participants explore the construction of coherent states that vary the quantum number s, contrasting this with the more commonly studied spin coherent states that vary m.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about known collective spin operators for raising or lowering the quantum number s in |s,m> states, expressing a desire to construct coherent states based on s.
  • The same participant presents a coherent-like state involving a sum over j, which is related to the number of young tableaux and the number of spin 1/2 particles, but notes a lack of references on the topic.
  • Another participant provides a link to an unpublished Word document that addresses a similar question regarding orbital angular momentum, though they express skepticism about the reliability of unpublished documents.
  • A later reply mentions that the document has been published in the International Journal of Theoretical Physics, suggesting it may be more credible.
  • One participant comments on the readability of the published document compared to the original Word document.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of specific operators or coherent states for varying s, and the discussion remains open with multiple viewpoints and references being shared.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the validity and applicability of the referenced unpublished document, as well as the specific nature of the coherent states being sought.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and students interested in quantum mechanics, particularly in the areas of spin states and coherent state construction, may find this discussion relevant.

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Are there any known (collective spin) operators to raise or lower the quantum number s in [tex]\left|{s,m}\right>[/tex] spin states?

I'm trying to construct coherent states varying the quantum number s instead of the well known spin coherent states varying m.

I found a coherent-like state similar to the one I'm looking for:
[tex]\left|{\psi}\right>= \displaystyle\sum_{j\geq{\left |{m}\right |}}^{N/2} Y(j) \left|{j,m}\right>[/tex]
where Y(j) has to do with the number of young tableaux associated with j and N is the number of spin 1/2 particles we are considering. But I haven't been able to find a reference about it.

Any help will be appreciated.
 
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That's an interesting question. Googling gave this unpublished Word document, dealing with this question for orbital angular momentum. I've not checked it, but unpublished Word documents are quite suspicious usually. Perhaps it helps you to start your own research, anyway:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.5146
 
vanhees71 said:
That's an interesting question. Googling gave this unpublished Word document, dealing with this question for orbital angular momentum. I've not checked it, but unpublished Word documents are quite suspicious usually. Perhaps it helps you to start your own research, anyway:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.5146
This has been published in the International Journal of Theoretical Physics.
 
Great! In addition to be more credible, it's far better readable than this awful (typographically wise, I mean) Word document :-)).
 

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