Relationship interatomic spacing or interplanar spacing and grain size

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between interplanar spacing or interatomic spacing and grain size, specifically in the context of polycrystalline materials. Participants explore theoretical connections and mathematical formulations related to this topic.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether interplanar spacing or interatomic spacing is directly proportional to grain size.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for additional context, such as the type of material (polycrystalline or single crystal), suggesting that there may not be a direct relationship between particle size, grain size, and spacing.
  • A participant specifies interest in polycrystalline materials and references the Debye-Scherrer formula, expressing a desire to connect spacing and grain size, while initially believing that spacing is directly proportional to grain size.
  • One participant provides three formulas related to the topic and derives two additional formulas to relate particle size and interplanar spacing, indicating a mathematical approach to the question.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the information shared, indicating engagement with the technical content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between interplanar spacing, interatomic spacing, and grain size. Multiple viewpoints are presented, with some suggesting a lack of direct correlation while others explore potential mathematical connections.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of material type in understanding the relationship, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the applicability of the formulas discussed.

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is interplanar spacing or interatomic spacing directly proportional to grain size?
 
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What are your thoughts? Although this may not be homework, for homework-type questions we need to see your attempt at figuring things out yourself before giving comments.
 
Before posting your question please supply more information..
for e.g., what material, i mean polycrystalline or single crystal, etc.
So people here would clarify your doubts.
To me, there is no direct relation between particle size, gran size and spacing.
 
is polycrystalline that i am interested. from debye-scherrer formula where D = k(lamda)/(FWHM)(costheta). i wan to connect spacing and grain size. is it possible? i thought spacing is directly proportional to grain size.
 
Hi i am sure about the result but it will be helpful.
we know the following three formula:
[tex] {\rm 1.~}2d\sin\theta=n\lambda,<br /> \hspace{3mm}<br /> {\rm 2.~}d=\frac{a}{\sqrt{h^2+k^2+l^2}},<br /> \hspace{3mm}<br /> {\rm 3.~}D=\frac{K\lambda}{\beta\cos\theta}.[/tex]
From these three formulae you arrive at the following two formulae:
[tex] D=\frac{K\lambda}{\beta\cos\left[\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{n\lambda}{2d}\right)\right]}<br /> =\frac{K\lambda}{\beta\cos\left[\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{n\lambda\sqrt{h^2+k^2+l^2}}{2a}\right)\right]}[/tex]
[tex]\theta[/tex] and [tex]\beta[/tex] are in degrees and radians, respectively.
This is how i related particle size and 'd' spacing.
good luck
 
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thanks a lot.
 

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