Remembering David Jones: Nature's Daedalus Columnist

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The thread discusses the life and contributions of David Jones, particularly his work as the writer of the Daedalus column in Nature and his involvement with perpetual motion machines. Participants share reflections on his legacy, explore his writings, and engage with the concept of perpetual motion in the context of his work.

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  • David Jones passed away from prostate cancer, prompting reflections on his contributions to science communication.
  • Some participants express interest in exploring archives of Jones's writings, including his columns and articles on various topics.
  • One participant mentions a specific perpetual motion machine designed by James Cox, suggesting it was powered by atmospheric pressure, but acknowledges that it does not constitute true perpetual motion.
  • Another participant emphasizes that perpetual motion machines are impossible due to the laws of thermodynamics, referring to Jones's creations as "fake" perpetual machines intended to challenge scientific understanding.
  • Jones's company, DREADCO, is noted as standing for Daedalus Research Engineering And Development Company, highlighting his innovative spirit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the impossibility of perpetual motion machines and express admiration for David Jones's contributions. However, there are varying levels of familiarity with his work and differing perspectives on the implications of his creations.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference specific articles and books related to Jones's work, but there is no consensus on the interpretations of his machines or their significance in the broader context of physics.

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David Jones, who wrote the Daedalus column in Nature has died of Prostrate cancer.
Here is a very interesting NY Times article on him.

I read his column when I was in labs that got Nature.
The times article had a lot of info on him that I was unaware of.
Very interesting guy.
 
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Does anyone want to have a go at it?

My initial thought was powered by atmospheric pressure.

Cox's timepiece is a clock developed in the 1760s by James Cox. It was developed in collaboration with John Joseph Merlin (with whom Cox also worked on developing automata). Cox claimed that his design was a true perpetual motion machine, but as the device is powered from changes in atmospheric pressure via a mercury barometer, this is not the case. The clock still exists today but was deactivated at the time of the clock's relocation to the Victoria and Albert Museum in London.[1]
 
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I can no longer edit the above post.

Of course perpetual motion machine are impossible ,as it would violate the first or second law of thermodynamics.

It is is a fake perpetual machine, one of four Mr. Jones built throughout his life.

He was quite the interesting fellow.
 
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BillTre said:
. . . died of Prostrate cancer.
Damn, another cancer worry. . . you just lay there until you're dead, I guess ? . :oldtongue:

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While we don’t discuss perpetual motion machines at PF, we are allowing this thread to mention them in deference to David Jones and his many interesting topics in the New Scientist magazine as the writer of the Daedalus column.

David Jones began intentionally creating fake perpetual motion machines in order to challenge scientists and others to discover their source of power. In the @Craftek_Ana post, a David Jones creation was shown as part of an exhibit and the presenter explains its operation without giving away its secret.

His DREADCO company, stood for Daedalus Research Engineering And Development Company

More on Prof Jones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._H._Jones
 
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