Researchers Find Missing Link Between Brain & Immune System

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The discussion revolves around the recent discovery of lymphatic vessels in the brain and their implications for understanding the relationship between the brain and the immune system. Participants explore the potential effects of mood on immune function, the significance of the findings, and the reactions to the research within the scientific community.

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  • Some participants question whether the discovery can explain why the immune system may suffer during periods of sadness or stress.
  • Others highlight the publication of the findings in a prestigious journal and discuss the funding sources for the research.
  • A participant provides a link to the original study, emphasizing its focus on the immune system's interaction with the brain rather than the reverse.
  • There is a suggestion that mood affects the immune system primarily through stress hormones.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the sensationalist claims surrounding the discovery, questioning the extent of its implications.
  • Another participant acknowledges the significance of the anatomical discovery while cautioning against overestimating its immediate impact on medical understanding and treatment.
  • Some participants express interest in the potential for this research to inspire new hypotheses regarding diseases like MS and Alzheimer's.

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Participants exhibit a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding the implications of the findings. While some acknowledge the importance of the discovery, others critique the sensationalism in its presentation and express caution about its immediate relevance to medical practice.

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There is ongoing uncertainty regarding the broader implications of the discovery for neuroimmunology and its potential impact on understanding specific diseases. Participants note that while the findings are significant, they do not provide immediate solutions to existing medical challenges.

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Very interesting! Thanks for posting the link.

The findings have been published online by the prestigious journal Nature and will appear in a forthcoming print edition. The article was authored by Louveau, Smirnov, Timothy J. Keyes, Jacob D. Eccles, Sherin J. Rouhani, J. David Peske, Noel C. Derecki, David Castle, James W. Mandell, Lee, Harris and Kipnis.

Funding: The study was funded by National Institutes of Health grants R01AG034113 and R01NS061973. Louveau was a fellow of Fondation pour la Recherche Medicale.
 
Here's a link to the study that the news piece is reporting on:
Louveau et al. 2015. Structural and functional features of central nervous system lymphatic vessels. Nature. Published online 01 June 2015. http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nature14432

Abstract:
One of the characteristics of the central nervous system is the lack of a classical lymphatic drainage system. Although it is now accepted that the central nervous system undergoes constant immune surveillance that takes place within the meningeal compartment1, 2, 3, the mechanisms governing the entrance and exit of immune cells from the central nervous system remain poorly understood4, 5, 6. In searching for T-cell gateways into and out of the meninges, we discovered functional lymphatic vessels lining the dural sinuses. These structures express all of the molecular hallmarks of lymphatic endothelial cells, are able to carry both fluid and immune cells from the cerebrospinal fluid, and are connected to the deep cervical lymph nodes. The unique location of these vessels may have impeded their discovery to date, thereby contributing to the long-held concept of the absence of lymphatic vasculature in the central nervous system. The discovery of the central nervous system lymphatic system may call for a reassessment of basic assumptions in neuroimmunology and sheds new light on the aetiology of neuroinflammatory and neurodegenerative diseases associated with immune system dysfunction.

The article seems to focus more on how the immune system interfaces with the brain than how the brain might affect the immune system. However, mood definitely will affect the immune system, and this is largely an effect of stress hormones that suppress the immune system.
 
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interesting, Thanks

so it really does prove the old adage that " Laughter is the best medicine" :smile:

Dave
 
I was actually going to post and ask about this, because I'm very interested in this but I don't know enough about it.

I'm seeing it on a number of pages, all touting it as "revolutionary", "a paradigm shift", the "medical discovery of the century", and that the researchers have discovered a heretofore completely unknown bodily system, that this has "game-changing" implications for research on autism, MS, and Alzheimer's, and that this is cause to "Rewrite the textbooks." Is this really as huge as they're saying?

Am I correct in my understanding that the researchers have essentially found lymph vessels in the meninges, and if that's the case, then what makes this so huge?

I would really appreciate if someone could explain it, since it looks interesting but I haven't had a biology or health science class since high school.
 
Sensationalism. Even this article title, "missing link", as if there was this one thing missing and now all our problems are solved.
 
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Pythagorean said:
Sensationalism. Even this article title, "missing link", as if there was this one thing missing and now all our problems are solved.

Well, in this case, it was quite literally a missing link. It was once thought that the brain had immune privilege and did not interact with the immune system. However, research over the past couple of decades began to change that view, so we knew a link existed, but we didn't know much more than that. This paper discovers the anatomical structure that provides at least one link between the immune system and the brain.

But yes, it does not solve all of our problems. However, like most good research, it can help spur some new hypotheses. For example, it would be interesting to look at these lymph vessels are any different between healthy people and people with diseases like MS (an autoimmune disorder) or Alzheimer's (a disease thought to be caused by defects in clearing a substance called amyloid-β from the celebrospinal fluid). I'm sure those working on developing antibodies to treat Alzheimer's are going to take a careful look at the paper. This study is not guaranteed to help in understanding the disease, and even if it does, it will take some time to translate that knowledge into potential treatment, but the finding is in itself of great interest to a number of researchers working in a number of different areas. I'd agree that it's not the medical discovery of the century (so far this century, that might be CRISPR), but it's still an important discovery.
 
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That's fair, I didn't mean to imply the research itself is bunk. It sounds like an interesting find! My grandfather died of Alzheimers and we studied it along side Huntington's in my neuro lab stint, so I can appreciate the potential relevance.
 

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