Ring Theory Problems: Unity vs. Non-Unity

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The discussion centers on the implications of including or excluding unity in integral domains within ring theory. Participants explore how these choices affect the properties and results in mathematical contexts, questioning the generality of results when unity is not considered.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the differences in ring theory problems when unity is included versus when it is not, suggesting that the results may become more general without unity.
  • Another participant references a source that indicates every ring can be embedded in a ring with an identity element, implying that excluding unity may not lead to greater generality.
  • A further contribution highlights that certain familiar properties, such as the relationship between maximal and prime ideals, can fail when unity is removed, providing an example with the ring of even integers.
  • Concerns are raised about the existence of maximal ideals in rings without unity, referencing additional material that discusses this issue.

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Participants express differing views on whether excluding unity leads to more general results in ring theory. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions of integral domains and the properties of ideals, which may not be universally accepted or applicable in all contexts.

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Dear Friends,
Please tell me the differences created in ring theory problems when
1.Unity is taken in integral domains.
2. Unity is not taken in integral domains.
Do results become more general in the second case.
Why one standard way not adopted worldwide by all authors because mathematical truth must be expessed in only one standard way .
 
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p.199, hungerford, shows every ring embeds in a ring with identity element. so there seems to be no greater generality or interest.
 
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Some familiar facts that we learned at our mother's knee become false if you remove the 1.

For one thing, maximal ideals are no longer automatically prime ideals. For example, ##R = 2\mathbb{Z}## is now an integral domain, and ##I = 4\mathbb{Z}## is a maximal ideal which is not prime, since ##4 = 2\cdot 2## and ##4\in I## but ##2 \not\in I##.

Worse yet, ##R## need not even have any maximal ideals. See, e.g.

http://sierra.nmsu.edu/morandi/notes/NoMaxIdeals.pdf
 
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