RIP Ginger Baker: Tributes from Paul McCartney, Flea & More

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The thread discusses tributes to Ginger Baker, the renowned drummer, reflecting on his musical legacy and personal anecdotes from participants regarding live performances and their experiences with various bands. The scope includes personal memories, opinions on musical talent, and reflections on Baker's character and contributions to music.

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  • Some participants describe Ginger Baker as a jazz drummer at heart, emphasizing his musical roots.
  • Several participants share personal experiences of attending live performances by Cream and other iconic bands, expressing nostalgia and admiration for those moments.
  • There are differing opinions on the musical abilities of other drummers, with one participant asserting that Ian Paice had superior technique compared to Baker and Bonham.
  • One participant highlights their appreciation for Jack Bruce's musicianship within Cream, suggesting a nuanced view of the band's dynamics.
  • Participants reference Baker's controversial statements about other musicians, indicating a complex personality that sparked varied reactions.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the musical contributions of Ginger Baker and other drummers, as well as differing opinions on the significance of various performances. No consensus is reached on these points.

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Participants express personal opinions and memories, which may not align with broader perspectives on musical talent or historical significance. The discussion reflects subjective experiences and interpretations of Baker's impact.

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Readers interested in music history, particularly rock and jazz, as well as fans of Ginger Baker and the bands he was associated with, may find this discussion engaging.

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Ginger was a jazz drummer at heart

 
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I saw Cream play at some auditorium in LA back in about 1967. A memorable performance, to be sure. Many classics came out of that band: "Sunshine of Your Love," "White Room," and my favorite, "Crossroads."

Not much later, Baker and Eric Clapton were part of Blind Faith, along with Steve Winwood and Ric Grech. I still love "Can't Find My Way Home."
 
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You heard Cream live? I’m jealous (although I was rather young at the time)...
 
marcusl said:
You heard Cream live?
Yep. And at a different concert about the same time, I saw Jefferson Airplane and The Holding Company (Janis Joplin's band) at the same time.
I saw the Rolling Stones live in '64 on their first American Tour- Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino.
marcusl said:
although I was rather young at the time
I was younger myself, back then :oldbiggrin:
 
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BWV said:
Ginger was a jazz drummer at heart
Thanks for that link, I don't think I have seen that before.
 
Mark44 said:
Yep. And at a different concert about the same time, I saw Jefferson Airplane and The Holding Company (Janis Joplin's band) at the same time.
I saw the Rolling Stones live in '64 on their first American Tour- Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino.

I was younger myself, back then :oldbiggrin:
Cream the Stones Janis Joplin and Jefferson airplane? That is some résumé.
I liked Cream, Wheels of Fire was the one with 'In the city of the deserted heart,' I think that is still my favourite.
 
pinball1970 said:
Cream the Stones Janis Joplin and Jefferson airplane? That is some résumé.
And Hot Tuna (Jorma Kaukonen & Jack Cassidy, both formerly in Jefferson Airplane) sometime in the 80s, and Dire Straits in '92.
 
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This is a great documentary



and apparently the full movie is on Youtube:
 
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Spinnor said:
"Mick Jagger is “a musical moron”. Hawkwind’s music “was ****ing appalling”. And rock stars? “****ing idiots, most of them.” How to win friends with the late, great Ginger Baker"

https://www.loudersound.com/feature...ernoon-with-the-worlds-most-irascible-drummer
He said that Bonham, 'Could Not swing for sh**,' I love the studio Zep but was not keen on the live stuff. Ian Paice was always number one in terms of technique, far better that either Bonham or Baker. Difference is that Paice was a gent and gave Bonham his dues.
I love certain cream tracks but Jack Bruce was the real musician for me. As a unit they were great.
 
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Did he mention Keith Moon? I saw The Who in 1973 (?) and the Moon / Entwhistle performance was wild, I remember it like yesterday. Oh yeah, I couldn't hear anything but a loud hissing noise for 2 1/2 days after that show.
 
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I always liked Ginger Baker in Blind Faith

 

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