Rotary Mechanical Brake System

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The discussion revolves around the design of a rotary mechanical brake system intended to limit the rotational speed of a platform to 1 RPM. Participants explore various braking mechanisms, including traditional friction brakes, rotary dampers, and magnetic braking systems, while considering the implications of the platform's mass and material constraints.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the challenge of generating sufficient braking force at a low rotational speed of 1 RPM given the platform's mass of over 200kg.
  • Another suggests exploring designs that utilize magnetically induced mass, referencing recent engine flywheel innovations.
  • There is a discussion about the potential use of eddy brakes, which can be calibrated to maintain a specific speed.
  • Participants emphasize the importance of simplicity in the brake design, particularly since the function of the device has not been clearly defined.
  • Questions arise regarding the power source for the platform's rotation and whether the tube is on a clutch, which could affect braking dynamics.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of transient overshoot beyond the 1 RPM limit and whether the braking system needs to function as a governor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the braking mechanisms and their feasibility, indicating that multiple competing ideas remain without a clear consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the operational parameters or the specific function of the platform, which may influence the choice of braking system. The discussion includes assumptions about the materials used and the constraints of the design.

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Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, particularly those focused on braking systems, rotational dynamics, and innovative braking technologies.

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Hi,

I am looking into a braking system which can limit the rotational speed of a platform; the assembly consists of a fixed vertical shaft and a rotating outer tube (seated with bearings). The platform diameter is >5 times larger than the tube.

I have looked into the typical band brake, friction brake, etc however, there is a problem:
The limit on rotational speed is set at 1 RPM, so to generate a relevant braking force centrifugally is unrealistic (considering the mass is over 200kg).
The only concern with electronically assisted brakes is the safety factor.

My only other option would be rotary dampers but if anyone has any better ideas, that would be great.

Cheers!
 
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What's the function of the design and how integral to the function is the 200kg's? I'm thinking of some of the recent engine flywheel designs where the constant mass of the flywheel has been replaced by a magnetically induced mass. With this design you can brake at a different mass then the operational mass.
 
The 200kg is basically the mass of the plate + its loaded elements.

Are you talking about eddy brakes? I understand they can be calibrated such that they are applied at a particular speed and effectively maintaining it.

I am going to need to back everything up with calculations so the simpler the better.
 
I would keep the brakes as simple and uncomplicated as possible since you have not yet identified a function for the device. What would the weight of the tube be if it was made of carbon fiber?

For the magnetics look first at trains that run by levitation. Do a search for magnetic flywheels and the internal combustion engine.
 
When the disc rotational speed reaches 1 RPM, it needs to be capped but with smooth deceleration.

The materials are steel and cannot be changed. I'll do some more research on magnetic brakes. I do have a little room to play with; my shaft is around 5cm radius, and my inner tube is around 16cm radius.

Cheers
 
What is causing the platform to rotate ?
 
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Fair enough but that's not where I was going with my response. Your braking difficulties are due to the mass of the tube. If you can't change the tube is the tube on a clutch? What's the power source? Is brake dampening required?
 
Jameseyboy said:
When the disc rotational speed reaches 1 RPM, it needs to be capped but with smooth deceleration.

The materials are steel and cannot be changed. I'll do some more research on magnetic brakes. I do have a little room to play with; my shaft is around 5cm radius, and my inner tube is around 16cm radius.

Cheers

Is 1 RPM a hard limit, such that transient overshoot to 1.01 would be a disaster?

It is not clear whether you are asking about a breaking mechanism of about the control system to apply the brake.
 
I see you edited your original question which raises even more.

As already asked what is powering the platform rotation? What's the potential RPM of the platform without the brake? Is it safe to assume your goal is to use a brake as a governor? If so, does the governor have to be a brake?
 

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