Safely and cost effective chemical to raise specfic gravity of water

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a safe and cost-effective chemical to increase the specific gravity of water in order to facilitate the flotation of flexible PVC wire chop during a separation process. The context includes practical applications and potential solutions for a project involving 1,200 gallons of water.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using salt as a potential solution to increase water's specific gravity.
  • Another participant reports that while salt worked on a smaller scale, the water became saturated and could not dissolve any more salt.
  • A different suggestion involves using soluble tungsten salts, with a note that sodium/ammonium tungstate/metatungstate/paratungstate are inexpensive options, though the specific salt with the highest solubility is not recalled.
  • Another participant proposes calcium chloride (CaCl2) as a viable option, highlighting its ability to create a concentrated solution without crystallization and its properties that prevent it from wetting plastic surfaces.
  • One participant mentions finding useful resources from Occidental Chemical regarding properties and handling of calcium chloride solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various suggestions for chemicals to use, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effectiveness of different chemicals.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in the solubility of certain chemicals and the potential for dilution when exposed to moisture, which may affect the effectiveness of the proposed solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in chemical separation processes, particularly those working with materials like PVC, may find this discussion relevant.

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We are currently working on a project with flexible PVC wire chop from a metals recycler. with a density of 1.1 -1.35 we are in search of a chemical to raise the specific gravity of 1,200 gallons of water to float the pvc in a separation process. any ideas? thank you
 
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why not use salt?
 
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i tried salt on a smaller scale and was able to make some of the pvc float. the water became so saturted it would not dissolve anymore salt.
 
try soluble tungsten salts

i don't recall which has the highest solubility, but sodium/ammonium tungstate/metatungstate/paratungstate are cheap
 
i will check into that. spoke with morton salt company this morning and they were not very informative. the first load will be here this week. we need a solution quick. thank you
 
I would use cheap calcium chloride (CaCl2) since you can make a solution up to 40-60% easily without crystallization. It is commonly sold as a deicer as prills, or as a concentrated solution.

It will need makeup if your separation is not a yes or no type of differentiation; the solution will continue to dilute itself when exposed to moisture in the air.

An advantage could be that it doesn't like to wet parts like plastics, so will bead up and easily come off the parts.
 
I found that Occidental Chemical (OXY) has some good PDF links to properties of solutions and handling info at oxycalciumchloride.com. Their LIQUIDOW is a technical grade water solution of 10-12 #/US gal calcium chloride.
 

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