Second order DE with Sine function

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The discussion centers on solving the second order differential equation ##\ddot y(t) + 3H (1+Q) \dot y(t) -m^2 f \sin(\frac{y(t)}{f}) = 0##, where ##H##, ##Q##, ##m##, and ##f## are constants. Participants suggest using the small angle approximation and reference the non-linear pendulum equation ##y''=k\sin(y)## as a potential starting point. They recommend studying solutions in terms of elliptic functions and suggest a specific book for further guidance on non-linear equations.

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I have this second order differential equation but I'm stumped as to how to solve this since the zeroth order term has a Sine function in it and the variable is embedded.

##\ddot y(t) + 3H (1+Q) \dot y(t) -m^2 f \sin(\frac{y(t)}{f}) = 0##

##H~##, ##~Q~##, ##~m~##, and ##~f~## are just constants.

I even tried to use DSolve in mathematica but there is an error. How do I solve this? Can anyone guide me with this problem?
 
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Google damped pendulum differential equation
[edit] and there's always this
 
BvU said:
Google damped pendulum differential equation
[edit] and there's always this
Are you pertaining to the small angle approximation? I know that is a possibility but the problem is that ##\theta = \frac{y[t]}{f} \approx 1##.
 
Small angle is the first approach. The article in the link discusses the full equation in section 3.
 
aheight said:
If you're interested in non-linear equations, I recommend this book which includes a step-by step solution of the non-linear pendulum:

http://store.doverpublications.com/0486609715.html
I still can't find the solution to my given equation, can you kindly give me a hint/note onto where I should look?
 
Figaro said:
I still can't find the solution to my given equation, can you kindly give me a hint/note onto where I should look?

I was referring to the equation ## y''=k\sin(y)##. That's not yours but if you first study how this one is solved exactly in terms of elliptic functions, then perhaps you can adapt the method to yours. It's been a while that I've studied it (using the book I quoted) and I no longer have the book and don't recall exactly how it's done.
 

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