Senior management no less for smoking a ciggy

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The discussion revolves around workplace policies regarding smoking, particularly the implications of smoking just before the end of a shift. Participants share personal experiences and opinions on work ethics, productivity, and the treatment of employees who smoke.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over being reprimanded for smoking just before the end of their shift, despite having arrived early to work.
  • Another participant agrees and discusses their own experience of working extra hours without compensation, suggesting a system for "roll over minutes" for early arrivals.
  • Some participants question the fairness of workplace policies, with one mentioning that smokers at their workplace spend excessive time outside, while others are inside working.
  • A participant humorously suggests that smoking pot at work is less problematic than smoking cigarettes, while another points out the potential productivity benefits of taking breaks, including smoke breaks.
  • One participant references a study claiming that multiple smoke breaks could lead to more productive workers, although they later admit to fabricating the claim.
  • Another participant mentions a recent study suggesting that smoking bans could increase overall productivity in the workplace.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on smoking in the workplace, with some agreeing on the unfairness of the reprimand and others discussing the potential productivity implications of smoking breaks. There is no consensus on the best approach to handling smoking policies or their impact on work performance.

Contextual Notes

There are varying assumptions about workplace culture, the impact of smoking on productivity, and the fairness of management practices. Some participants reference studies without providing full context or verification.

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To senior management no less for smoking a ciggy 5 mins before my official finish time, no comment however that i came in 30 mins early on my own time to help out, no comment on all the times i have been asked to help out out side my work hours, well you can guess what i will say to management if this is actioned.
 
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I completely agree. I'm alway doing work, after work. My job is on the honor system I don't clock in and most the time I don't have to go into the office, so I just write down at the end of the week how many hours I worked and I always just put 40 hours so I guess I screw myself out of the extra time and can't really complain. We should get roll over minutes. If we come in fifteen minutes early every day for a month take the next day off.
On the other hand you couldn't wait five minutes for a cigarette?
 


That is BS.

I occasionally smoke pot at work, and it's not a problem. Better for you than nasty cigarettes as well.
 


Forget the fact that you keep driving the forklift down the stairs
 


tribdog said:
I completely agree. I'm alway doing work, after work. My job is on the honor system I don't clock in and most the time I don't have to go into the office, so I just write down at the end of the week how many hours I worked and I always just put 40 hours so I guess I screw myself out of the extra time and can't really complain. We should get roll over minutes. If we come in fifteen minutes early every day for a month take the next day off.
On the other hand you couldn't wait five minutes for a cigarette?

I could wait, it is just every thing that could be done had been done, on the other shifts the canteen is the office, i just think some one got out of bed the wrong side and decided to be
petty.
 


See, we keep telling you smoking is bad for you. :biggrin: Though, that is sad that they report you for basically finishing your shift a bit early since you started early.
 


What kind of a nasty back-stabbing place do you work at Wolram?

Smokers where I work spend 4 hours a day outside puffing away. They might as well, the rest are inside playing on the internet.
 


Evo said:
What kind of a nasty back-stabbing place do you work at Wolram?

Smokers where I work spend 4 hours a day outside puffing away. They might as well, the rest are inside playing on the internet.

Well i am going to wear a stab vest from now on, it seems there must be some new crawlers working here and they are desperate for points.
 


Holocene said:
That is BS.

I occasionally smoke pot at work, and it's not a problem. Better for you than nasty cigarettes as well.

Do you happen to work in a marijuana plantation site?

About the smoking thing, you should blame the government for banning smoking indoors :biggrin:
 
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That'll teach you to smoke at work. Next time you want to smoke make sure you bring enough for everybody.
 
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I had a job once where I used to work my *** off compared to all of the other jerks there. I was constantly having to clean up after them and do all of the stuff they didn't feel like doing. But somehow just about every time my boss showed up I was in the middle of my break. With out considering anything else he would more or less assume I must not be doing much work.
 
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It is best to follow rules and regulations while working with large # of people.

I directly work under my employer, and he knows how much I work. I can easily take days off or take weekend on Wednesday.
 
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Evo said:
Smokers where I work spend 4 hours a day outside puffing away.
It's like that in the office building where I work too. I really need to take up smoking. Life is so much easier when you're a smoker (until the cancer, of course, but that won't happen for another 50 years).
 
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Did you see that study where it showed that multiple smoke breaks actually made for more productive workers? They are energized by the 5 or 10 minutes away from working and come back ready to work at high speed. Non smokers who didn't get the breaks got slower and slower as the day wore on. I totally made this up and I apologize, but it could be true.
 
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tribdog said:
Did you see that study where it showed that multiple smoke breaks actually made for more productive workers? They are energized by the 5 or 10 minutes away from working and come back ready to work at high speed. Non smokers who didn't get the breaks got slower and slower as the day wore on. I totally made this up and I apologize, but it could be true.
No worries 98% of all studies are made up anyways.
 
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There was a recent study about breaks increasing productivity, but after a certain point, you're just taking hours out of the day (and I do mean hours). That's the problem with workplace smoking. People really do spend a lot of time doing it.
The smoking ban could increase productivity by 10% - 14%, according to Julie Walsh, partner of top twenty accountancy firm...

http://www.kingstonsmith.co.uk/Kingston-Smith/Media+Centre/Press+Releases/Smoking+Ban+Could+Increase+Productivity+by+up+to+fourteen+percent.htm
 
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