Separable Differential Equation (what's wrong?)

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The discussion revolves around solving a separable differential equation given by \(\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{8y}{5x}\). Participants explore the process of separating variables, integrating, and determining the constant of integration using a specific point (4, 1) on the solution curve.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the separation of variables and integration steps, expressing uncertainty about solving for the constant \(c\) using the point (4, 1).
  • Another participant confirms the initial approach as correct.
  • A later reply elaborates on the manipulation of logarithmic expressions, showing equivalences between different forms of the equation.
  • One participant seeks clarification on how the term \(8c\) simplifies to \(c\) in the context of logarithmic identities.
  • Another participant provides an explanation that \(8c\) remains a constant, thus can be represented as \(c\).
  • A participant notes an edit made to clarify a previous post.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correctness of the initial approach to solving the differential equation, but there is some uncertainty regarding the manipulation of constants in logarithmic forms.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration process and the handling of constants, which may depend on the definitions and interpretations of logarithmic properties.

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So, here's the problem:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{8y}{5x}[/tex]

To start off, I separate the integrals, which gives me:

[tex]\frac{dy}{8y} = \frac{dy}{5x}[/tex]

After that, I integrate both sides, which gives me:

[tex]\frac{ln8y}{8} = \frac{ln5x}{5} + c[/tex]

Now, the question says that it runs through (4, 1), so that is saying that y(4) = 1, correct?

To solve for c, I just plug the 4 in where the Xs are and the 1 is where the Ys are?

EDIT: Sorry, posted in the wrong forum! Please move this thread for me :\
 
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That's the correct approach.
 
Notice by the way that
[tex]\frac{ln(8y)}{8}= \frac{ln(5x)}{5}+ c[/tex]
is the same as
[tex]\frac{ln(y)+ ln(8)}{8}= \frac{ln(x)+ ln(5)}{5}+ c[/tex]
[tex]\frac{ln(y)}{8}+ 1= \frac{ln(x)}{5}+ 1+ c[/tex]
[tex]\frac{ln(y)}{8}= \frac{ln(x)}{5}+ c[/tex]

And that is the same as
[tex]ln(y)= \frac{8}{5} ln(x)+ 8c= ln(x^{\frac{8}{5}})+ 8c[/itex]<br /> so that<br /> [tex]y= e^{8c} x^{\frac{8}{4}}[/tex]<br /> and that can be written simply<br /> [tex]y= Cx^{\frac{8}{5}[/tex]<br /> where [itex]C= e^{8c}[/itex][/tex]
 
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Oh, okay! How did the 8c become only c in:

[tex]\frac{8}{5} ln(x)+ 8c= ln(x^{\frac{8}{5}})+ c[/tex]

Thanks for the help.
 
scud0405 said:
Oh, okay! How did the 8c become only c in:

[tex]\frac{8}{5} ln(x)+ 8c= ln(x^{\frac{8}{5}})+ c[/tex]

Thanks for the help.

8*c = c because 8, a constant, times a constant c, is still a constant.
 
I have editted my post to make that clearer.
 

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