Series solution, second order diff. eq.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation, specifically x^4y''+2x^3y'-y=0, using a series solution approach. Participants explore the formulation of the series and the derivation of recurrence relations for the coefficients in the series expansion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a series solution of the form y(x)=∑a_n x^{-n} and derives expressions for y', y'', and their substitutions into the differential equation.
  • The same participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their derived solution and hopes to find a series expansion related to cosh(1/x) or sinh(1/x).
  • Another participant identifies a mistake in the summation and provides a corrected recurrence relation, suggesting that the previous relation was incorrect.
  • A third participant emphasizes the importance of checking signs in the derivation and provides further corrections to the summation terms and recurrence relation.
  • The initial poster acknowledges the correction and expresses gratitude for the help received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct form of the recurrence relation, as there are multiple corrections and adjustments proposed throughout the discussion. The initial participant's solution remains uncertain, and the discussion reflects ongoing refinement of ideas.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved mathematical steps in deriving the correct recurrence relations and dependencies on the accuracy of earlier summation manipulations.

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Hi there. I have this differential equation: x^4y''+2x^3y'-y=0
And I have to find one solution of the form: \sum_0^{\infty}a_nx^{-n},x>0
So I have:
y(x)=\sum_0^{\infty}a_n x^{-n}
y'(x)=\sum_1^{\infty}(-n) a_n x^{-n-1}
y''(x)=\sum_2^{\infty}(-n)(-n-1) a_n x^{-n-2}

Then, replacing in the diff. eq.
x^4\sum_2^{\infty}(-n)(-n-1) a_n x^{-n-2}+2x^3\sum_1^{\infty}(-n) a_n x^{-n-1}-\sum_0^{\infty}a_n x^{-n}=0
\sum_2^{\infty}(-n)(-n-1) a_n x^{-n+2}+2\sum_1^{\infty}(-n) a_n x^{-n+2}-\sum_0^{\infty}a_n x^{-n}=0
Expanding the first term for the second summation, and using k=n-2->n=k+2 for the first and the second sum:
-\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2)(k+3) a_{k+2} x^{-k}-2a_1x-2\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2) a_n x^{-k}-\sum_0^{\infty}a_k x^{-k}=0
-\sum_0^{\infty}x^{-k} \left [ (k+2)(k+4) a_{k+2} +a_k \right ]=0
Then:
-2a_1=0\rightarrow a_1=0
a_{k+2}=\frac{-a_k}{(k+2)(k+4)}

After trying some terms I get for the recurrence relation:
a_{2n}=\frac{(-1)^n a_0}{2^{2n}(n+1)!n!}
And
a_{2n+1}=0\forall n

So then I have one solution:
y(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^n a_0}{2^{2n}(n+1)!n!}x^{-2n}

Now, I think this is wrong, but I don't know where I've committed the mistake.

I hoped to find a series expansion for cosh(1/x) or sinh(1/x) because wolframalpha gives the solution:
y(x)=c_1 cosh(1/x)-ic_2 sinh(1/x)
For the differential equation (you can check it here)
Would you help me to find the mistake in here?
 
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Ok. I've found a mistake there.

-\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2)(k+3) a_{k+2} x^{-k}-2a_1x \color{red} - \color{red} 2\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2) a_n x^{-k} -\sum_0^{\infty}a_k x^{-k}=0

So this gives:
-\sum_0^{\infty}x^{-k} \left [ (k+2)(k+5) a_{k+2} +a_k \right ]=0

And the recurrence formula:
a_{k+2}=\frac{-a_k}{(k+2)(k+5)}

It's worse now, because I couldn't even find the recurrence relation.
 
Hi Telemachus! :smile:

Always check the minuses first …

Telemachus said:
Expanding the first term for the second summation, and using k=n-2->n=k+2 for the first and the second sum:
-\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2)(k+3) a_{k+2} x^{-k}-2a_1x-2\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2) a_n x^{-k}-\sum_0^{\infty}a_k x^{-k}=0
-\sum_0^{\infty}x^{-k} \left [ (k+2)(k+4) a_{k+2} +a_k \right ]=0

should be …
\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2)(k+3) a_{k+2} x^{-k}-2a_1x-2\sum_0^{\infty}(k+2) a_n x^{-k}-\sum_0^{\infty}a_k x^{-k}=0
-\sum_0^{\infty}x^{-k} \left [ (k+2)(k+1) a_{k+2} +a_k \right ]=0
:wink:
 
Aw, you're right! thank you very much. Didn't noticed that I had (-1)^2 :p
 
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