Short Story Physics: Radiation in Interstellar Space

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of radiation exposure in interstellar space, particularly in the context of a fictional colony ship that maintains its atmosphere through acceleration. Participants explore the implications of radiation shielding, the effects of relativistic speeds on radiation, and comparisons to planetary atmospheres.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a scenario involving a colony ship with an atmosphere comparable to a planet, questioning the radiation exposure in interstellar space.
  • Another participant references a proton energy spectrum presentation, noting that protons have significant energy levels and suggesting that hydrogenous materials are the most effective shielding against radiation.
  • A participant reflects on the implications of introducing an atmosphere, suggesting it shifts the comparison from a spaceship to a planetary model.
  • Several participants express enthusiasm for the works of author Larry Niven, indicating a shared interest that may influence their perspectives on the discussion topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best methods for radiation shielding or the effects of relativistic speeds on radiation exposure. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain regarding the effectiveness of different shielding materials and the implications of atmospheric conditions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the nature of the atmosphere and its comparison to planetary conditions. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of radiation interactions or the specifics of relativistic effects.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in speculative fiction, radiation physics, and the challenges of space travel may find the discussion relevant and engaging.

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Idea for a short story.

Say you had a colony ship that had its atmo contained by acceleration alone. It had an atmo that was comparable in depth to a planet. (Don't worry about it escaping, just help me with the radiation aspect.)

Think of Niven's Ringworld.

How much radiation would you experience in interstellar space - say, a few light years from any stars? (discounting radiation from RW's sun.) While the RW's structure shields its denizens from radiation below, it doesn't help from above.

Would you be able to shield the surface from radiation with a powerful magnetic field? Or an ozone layer?

Would low relativistic velocities (.1%-1% c) blue-shift the radiation to any significant degree in terms of radiation exposure?

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See the proton energy spectrum in this presention.

http://hesperia.gsfc.nasa.gov/sspvse/oral/Ken_McCracken/wintergreen1.pdf

Protons have energy around 0.1 - 10 GeV and their rest mass is ~0.93827 GeV. Most are non-relativisitc, but 100's of MeV is still a lot of energy.

The most effective shielding is other protons, i.e. hydrogenous materials. Light metals like Al should be avoided because of the secondary radiation from spallation reactions. LiH is a possible shilding material, but it would need to be surrounded by a structual material.
 
I guess once you introduce an atmo to the equation, you're basically comparing it to a planet rather than a spaceship. I guess that sort of answers my own question.
 
Dave, I used to just love you for your body... but you're a fellow Niven fan? :!)
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I've read and have a copy of everything he's published. He is my #1 fave. Currently reading 'Building Harlequins' Moon' in hardcover because, as usual, I'm too impatient to wait for the paperback to come out.
 
I wish that I had your money. Strictly pb for me. :frown:
 

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