Should I Choose Physics or Engineering for University?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a degree in physics or engineering, particularly in the context of job opportunities and economic conditions in Greece. Participants share their perspectives on the implications of each choice, considering factors such as marketability, personal interest, and the potential need for further education abroad.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong preference for physics but is concerned about job prospects, citing advice from professors suggesting engineering is a more practical choice.
  • Another participant advises that in Greece, choosing a major that enhances marketability is crucial, recommending engineering due to better job prospects.
  • A third participant emphasizes that pursuing physics should only be considered if one is passionate about it and willing to potentially study abroad for better opportunities.
  • Concerns are raised about the job market for physicists in Greece, with references to government regulations favoring engineering degrees for certain jobs.
  • Participants discuss the differences in job stability and opportunities between engineering and science degrees, noting that engineering is often a regulated profession with clearer career paths.
  • There is mention of the saturation of public sector jobs, particularly in teaching, which may not align with the expectations of those with advanced degrees.
  • One participant questions the job opportunities in mechanical engineering, suggesting it may be a viable option due to its physics content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that job prospects for physics graduates in Greece are limited compared to those for engineering graduates. However, there is no consensus on whether to prioritize personal interest in physics over practical considerations of job security in engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the influence of local economic conditions and government regulations on job opportunities, as well as the potential need for further education to enhance employability in both fields.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering university degrees in physics or engineering, particularly in regions with similar economic conditions to Greece.

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Now that I have given the "entrance" exams that are required to enter a uni, I face a dilemma.
Basically, I can get into any faculty that I want, but, the problem is, that I was always thinking of entering the physics department. However, talking to professors from my school and to other people, they say that going into physics is a terrible (!) choice. Even a physics professor that I asked, said that if he was in my position, he'd be going into mechanical engineering. Generally, people are saying that being an engineer is much more profitable, and actually has job opportunities (where I live, physicists can't get a job, at least the majority of them).
So, I looked at the programs of all the engineering faculties, and the only ones that seemed interesting was electrical engineering, and chemical engineering.

What should I do? It's a very tough choice, I know I prefer going to physics than becoming an engineer, but I fear that I might regret it when I'm older because of the job opportunities etc.

For your information, I live in Greece.
 
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If you were living in a country with a better economy than Greece, I might have said that you should go for physics. But if you're living in Greece, then you should make yourself as marketable as possible. I highly recommmend going into some kind of engineering. Do search which kind of engineering have good job prospects there. I know that chemical engineering doesn't always get good jobs in every country.

It is very bad to go into a field and eventually not getting a job. Try to avoid this by choosing your major very wisely.
 
A word from another citizen of the PIGS states (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain*):

Only go into physics if you really like it AND are willing+able(grades and/or money for a masters) to go to graduate school abroad and stay to settle and work, wherever that takes you.
 
Thanks for your input. The thing that makes it harder is that the physics professor that teached me this year in school, said that I am very good and he thinks I could have a career in physics... My mathematician says do not make the mistake to go into physics :P.
Some people say that I should study physics if I'm certain I want to move into another country, but, I'm not sure that I will want to do that.

The thing with jobs here, is that basically, the government declares the working rights of each degree, and mechanical engineering, electrical and civil, have a huge advantage over the other degrees, they have the best working rights.

For example, say you have somebody with a degree in ChemE, and somebody a chemistry degree + MSc in ChemE, the first one will be greatly preferred, because he can sign the designs of a factory for example, and has a signature recognized by the governement. The chemist doesn't, so even with his MSc, he is unlikely to be hired.

How do things work in other countries?
 
It is exactly the same as you describe in Spain for engineers. It is similar elsewhere, the general statement is that engineering is a regulated profession (it's the same in the US, I believe if you graduate from an ABET-accredited school you automatically enter this "club").

Science and math degrees are not, they are academic degrees, just like art, philosophy, and literature (as much as some physics students hate to hear this!).

If you go down the path of academics, be aware you will certainly need to emigrate, put off having stable relationships for many years, etc. Fortunately it looks like most Greeks have a high level of English, way better off than most Spaniards with equally terrible job prospects.
 
You couldn't be more correct about emigration.
It's very weird that there are a lot of physicists here with a PhD that teach 13-17 year olds for a living. You'd expect a better career for somebody with those "papers". Even my biology professor has an MSc in molecular biology.
 
I've seen it happen here too. Public sector jobs like teaching are really the only thing that provides any sort of job stability in my country... hence why it's become so saturated. Naturally people with advanced degrees out-compete most both credential-wise and in selection exams.
 
I've been told that mechanical engineering has plenty of job opportunities and is the most physics-intensive engineering subject. Is that so?
 

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