Should I invest in mathematica?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to invest in Mathematica, particularly for a physics major considering its utility for homework assignments and its comparison with other software like Maple and MATLAB. Participants explore the benefits and drawbacks of Mathematica, its capabilities as a computer algebra system, and alternatives available for students.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of purchasing Mathematica given access to it in school labs, suggesting that it may not be worth the investment.
  • Another participant expresses a need for a CAS that can perform algebra step-by-step, particularly for complex problems involving polynomials.
  • Some participants recommend considering free alternatives like Maxima before deciding on Mathematica.
  • One participant argues that Mathematica is inferior to Maple, citing Maple's user-friendliness and teaching advantages.
  • Another participant mentions their satisfaction with MATLAB and notes that it is commonly used by engineers, raising uncertainty about its relevance for physicists.
  • There is a discussion about the advantages of Maple over Mathematica, particularly in terms of coding syntax.
  • A participant shares their positive experience after purchasing Mathematica, noting its effectiveness in confirming solutions for symbolic determinants.
  • Concerns are raised about Mathematica's steeper learning curve compared to Maple, but some acknowledge its speed and robustness once mastered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the value of Mathematica, with some advocating for its purchase while others recommend alternatives like Maple or Maxima. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which software is superior or more beneficial for physics students.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various software tools and their applications, but there is no consensus on the best choice for a physics major. The discussion includes subjective experiences and preferences, which may not apply universally.

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I am a sophmore physics major. I'm just curious if you all think it will be benificial to have Mathematica ($150 for the student edition) for any and all future homework assignments. I do have access to it at the school labs, but they are usually closed when I like to study, and well.. just wondering if it is worth having my own copy.

thanks much.:-p
 
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Actually, since I am on the topic, you know what I really need? A CAS (computer algebra system) that can do algebra one step at a time. For example, I am currently working on a problem where I have to take the determinant of a 3x3 matrix where each position in the matrix is a polynomial. It can get hairy. Its one thing to punch in the matrix and see what mathematica says the determinant should be, but how it got there is the real trick.
 
I wouldn't bother buying Mathematica until you're sure that Maxima can't do what you need to do for free.

- Warren
 
Mathematica is garbarge compared to Maple in my opinion. I wouldn't invest in it.
 
silverdiesel, do you have examples of such tools?
 
Chipset said:
silverdiesel, do you have examples of such tools?

What tools? Not sure what you mean. I have used mathematica at school, if that is what you mean. In regard to the one-step-at-a-time CAS, no. It was just an idea.

hmm, maybe there is some sort of algebra teaching software that would work... (again, just thinking out loud)
 
What advantages does Maple have over Mathematica?
 
Daverz said:
What advantages does Maple have over Mathematica?

I like the coding that they use much much better.
 
I purchased MatLab last year, and I love it. I was thinking about buying Mathematica at first, but after researching I found that most engineers use MatLab in real world situations.

But I don't know about for a physicist.
 
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There's a free analogue to MATLAB too, called Octave.

- Warren
 
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JasonRox said:
I like the coding that they use much much better.

The coding? Do you mean the syntax of the programming language?
 
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Matlab is good for numerical computation...but Mathematica is what you turn to when you have an impossible integral to compute, and you want a symbolic answer.
 
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I went ahead and purchased mathematica yesterday. Good stuff. It was able to confirm the solutions to a couple 3x3 determinants I have been working on (all symbolic, no numbers).
 
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JasonRox said:
Mathematica is garbarge compared to Maple in my opinion. I wouldn't invest in it.
Maple's a better teaching; very user friendly.

Mathematica's got a steeper learning curve but is faster (and more robust) when mastered.

Matlab's good for coding test programs in (before optimising in C++ etc.)

If you can afford it, get the student versions when you can - they get a lot more expensive later on...
 

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