Should I Pursue a MS or Focus on Software Development?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a Master's degree (MS) in physics or to focus on a career in software development. Participants explore the implications of choosing a Master's degree without a PhD, the stress associated with pursuing a PhD, and the relevance of a physics degree to a career in software development.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that it is acceptable to pursue an MS without a PhD, depending on individual career goals.
  • Others argue that if one does not wish to pursue a PhD due to stress, it may be a wise decision to avoid it.
  • There is a suggestion that a Master's in physics may not be as beneficial for a career in software development compared to a Master's in computer science.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of aligning educational choices with career aspirations, particularly in software development.
  • Concerns are raised about the mental health implications of pursuing a PhD, with some advising to prioritize mental well-being over academic pressure.
  • A few participants question the necessity of seeking advice if the individual is already certain about not wanting a PhD.
  • There are suggestions to focus on practical skills in software development rather than pursuing further academic qualifications in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pursuing a PhD is not mandatory for a successful career, particularly in industry. However, there is disagreement on the value of an MS in physics for a software development career, with some advocating for a shift to computer science instead.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of concern regarding the mental health implications of pursuing a PhD, and there are unresolved questions about the best educational path for a career in software development.

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I posted a lot of times on reddit, because I don't think I can survive a PhD

 
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And did you have a question or did you just need for us to know that?
 
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phinds said:
And did you have a question or did you just need for us to know that?
Is it OK to get a MS without a PhD (in physics), I feel a little bad about myself for not doing a PhD but I don't think I have the mental capacity to do one anyways
 
robertya1027 said:
Is it OK to get a MS without a PhD (in physics), I feel a little bad about myself for not doing a PhD but I don't think I have the mental capacity to do one anyways
Well, it depends on what you want to do. In any case, if you've done enough to get a masters then you have a good idea of what it would take to do the PhD so knowing that, if you don't think that's the right thing for you, it's hard to see how you would be wrong.
 
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robertya1027 said:

I cannot see myself doing a PhD​

Then don't. Most people don't do a PhD. If you don't get a PhD, you will have a lot of company.
 
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Define ”OK”. It depends on what your aim is here. Obviously, not everyone does a PhD after a master and they generally get jobs. However, if your aim is to stay in academia, then a PhD would be a requirement to land most if not all jobs.

Either way, if you believe it would be too stressful for you to the point of affecting your mental health status, then doing a PhD is probably a bad idea. There is indeed quite a high incidence of mental health issues among PhD students.

If you feel your mental health is in danger, then you should contact a professional.
 
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Orodruin said:
Define ”OK”. It depends on what your aim is here. Obviously, not everyone does a PhD after a master and they generally get jobs. However, if your aim is to stay in academia, then a PhD would be a requirement to land most if not all jobs.

Either way, if you believe it would be too stressful for you to the point of affecting your mental health status, then doing a PhD is probably a bad idea. There is indeed quite a high incidence of mental health issues among PhD students.

If you feel your mental health is in danger, then you should contact a professional.
What about industry?
 
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robertya1027 said:
What about industry?
Most industry jobs do not require a PhD and even if you do get into a company that values your PhD, it is most often better for your carreer to start working on your carreer rather than doing the PhD (as in, in the time you would have taken todo the PhD you will instead spend on advancing your carreer in the company and end up further along than the PhD will let you).
 
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It's far better for everyone to figure out early that a PhD is not for you. You'd much rather not start in the first place than spend several years floundering, stressed, and miserable only to come to the same conclusion.

Of course, I get the apprehension. There's a lot of pressure, even if it's only from the sunken cost effect. You've invested so much time already (assuming you're on track to complete an MSc) that it feels as though you'd be giving up on everything you've already done. You can also feel pressure from family, friends, partners, etc. because they've helped you get to where you are and opting not to do a PhD would feel like giving up on them.

The trick, really, is figuring out what you next step is. So a PhD is not for you. Alright. Good choice. But what IS right for you? Or at least, what options are you excited about exploring? Do you want to take that STEM foundation and translate that into a lucrative career in data science? Is teaching your thing? Maybe you really enjoyed your time in your campus machine shop and now want a career in 3D printing and device fabrication. You might not know what this is right away either. But it's important to have a plan for figuring that out.
 
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robertya1027 said:
What about industry?
What country (a) are you now studying in, (b) do you plan to work in, and (c) are you a citizen of?
 
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robertya1027 said:
I posted a lot of times on reddit, because I don't think I can survive a PhD


@robertya1027 , I took a brief look at your Reddit posts (posted under the username u/throwRA50950), and I could surmise a few things from your post:

1. You come from a wealthy (or at least well-off) family (since according to one of your posts, your parents are giving you $80000-$100000 each year, ostensibly for your undergraduate studies).

2. In your own words, your GPA "isn't too good, but still acceptable (3.xx GPA)"

3. Almost graduating university (I'm assuming you are graduating from an American university, since you make references to GPA).

4. You are interested in working in software development/programming as a career strategy.

Am I wrong about my summary above? And is there any other information you want to share? Because any additional information will help us on PF give you better advice.
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
@robertya1027 , I took a brief look at your Reddit posts (posted under the username u/throwRA50950), and I could surmise a few things from your post:

1. You come from a wealthy (or at least well-off) family (since according to one of your posts, your parents are giving you $80000-$100000 each year, ostensibly for your undergraduate studies).

2. In your own words, your GPA "isn't too good, but still acceptable (3.xx GPA)"

3. Almost graduating university (I'm assuming you are graduating from an American university, since you make references to GPA).

4. You are interested in working in software development/programming as a career strategy.

Am I wrong about my summary above? And is there any other information you want to share? Because any additional information will help us on PF give you better advice.
1. I don't want to do a PhD because it's too stressful
2. I don't NEEED a PhD anyways
 
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robertya1027 said:
1. I don't want to do a PhD because it's too stressful
2. I don't NEEED a PhD anyways
Then why are you even stressing out about it and asking strangers for advice? Just don't get a PhD !
 
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robertya1027 said:
1. I don't want to do a PhD because it's too stressful
2. I don't NEEED a PhD anyways
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robertya1027 said:
1. I don't want to do a PhD because it's too stressful
2. I don't NEEED a PhD anyways
@robertya1027, I don't understand why you are posting here at all. No one told you that you need to do a PhD. It's your choice what you need to do.

You wrote in post #3:

"Is it OK to get a MS without a PhD (in physics), I feel a little bad about myself for not doing a PhD but I don't think I have the mental capacity to do one anyways"

So do you want my opinion about your quote? Because here goes:

1. It is OK to get a MS in physics, or in any other field, but this depends on what you want to do career-wise. I don't think a MS in physics will be all that useful for a career in software development (which, based on your posts on Reddit, is what you are interested in). IMO, a MS in computer science may be more useful for you if software development is what you want to do.

2. Back to #1 -- are you actually interested in software development? What kinds of jobs or careers are you interested in? This is important, as this should inform you on what next steps you should take in terms of your education or training.
 
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And Harry Callahan says,

 
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StatGuy2000 said:
1. It is OK to get a MS in physics, or in any other field, but this depends on what you want to do career-wise. I don't think a MS in physics will be all that useful for a career in software development (which, based on your posts on Reddit, is what you are interested in). IMO, a MS in computer science may be more useful for you if software development is what you want to do.

If he wants to do software development, I'd suggest cutting his losses and abandoning the MS altogether. Instead of switching to MS in CS and playing catch up, focus on learning actual software development via programming courses or on his own.
 

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