Should You Prioritize Research Over Competitions for Grad School Applications?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to prioritize research experience or preparation for competitions, such as ACM ICPC or the Putnam exam, in the context of graduate school applications. Participants explore the implications of each choice on future academic opportunities and personal preferences.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the value of research versus competition preparation, noting the time-consuming nature of research and personal disinterest in competitions.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the evaluation of applications depends on the preferences of the evaluators, suggesting that research experience is generally favored.
  • A participant hypothesizes that having three years of research experience could be a strong indicator of readiness for graduate school, although they express uncertainty about their performance in competitions.
  • It is noted that strong letters of recommendation from research mentors could enhance a candidate's application.
  • Some participants agree that research experience can help clarify one's field of interest and is preferable to discovering a dislike for research later in a PhD program.
  • One participant expresses a personal preference for research over competitions, reinforcing the idea that enjoyment in the chosen path is important.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that research experience is valuable for graduate school applications, but there are differing opinions on the relative importance of competitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for individual circumstances.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying degrees of certainty about the impact of research versus competition performance on graduate school applications, and there are assumptions about the preferences of evaluators that are not universally applicable.

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I've recently been wondering whether it is better to spend one's time doing research or prepare for competitions like ACM ICPC or the Putnam exam? I currently have the opportunity to participate in some research, but it is very time consuming. That, with my course-load makes it pretty difficult to have time to prepare for such competitions. And anyway, I don't particularly enjoy preparing for them much.

My question also applies in context to graduate school applications. Would doing a significant amount of research be valued more than doing fairly well in competitions?
 
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It is good that you put your question in context. The answer is it depends on who is evaluating your application. When I select students I prefer research experience. I suspect this is generally true. When we select students part of our job is to pick people we think will succeed. A candidate who already has research experience and yet still wants to go to graduate school is usually a safer bet.
 
analogdesign said:
It is good that you put your question in context. The answer is it depends on who is evaluating your application. When I select students I prefer research experience. I suspect this is generally true. When we select students part of our job is to pick people we think will succeed. A candidate who already has research experience and yet still wants to go to graduate school is usually a safer bet.

Thanks for your reply. Hypothetically, when I apply for graduate schools, I should have about 3 years of experience doing research. I think that should be a good indicator that I'm ready for graduate school?

On top of that, I may not even do so well in those competitions.
 
Rocket50 said:
Thanks for your reply. Hypothetically, when I apply for graduate schools, I should have about 3 years of experience doing research. I think that should be a good indicator that I'm ready for graduate school?

On top of that, I may not even do so well in those competitions.

If you combine that 3 years of experience with strong letters of recommendation from the people who mentored you in that research then yes, that would be an excellent indicator you're ready for graduate school. It is surprising how few candidates have strong research experience and how rare it is for undergraduates to ask to get involved in the research in my group. I almost always get students through large programs but the very few that contacted me directly are the ones I remember.
 
I agree with Analogdesign.

Research experience also helps you to decide on a specific field to go into, or a specific project you want to do. And if you aboslutely hate it, it's much better to figure that out as an undergraduate than once you're two years into a PhD.
 
analogdesign said:
If you combine that 3 years of experience with strong letters of recommendation from the people who mentored you in that research then yes, that would be an excellent indicator you're ready for graduate school. It is surprising how few candidates have strong research experience and how rare it is for undergraduates to ask to get involved in the research in my group. I almost always get students through large programs but the very few that contacted me directly are the ones I remember.

Choppy said:
I agree with Analogdesign.

Research experience also helps you to decide on a specific field to go into, or a specific project you want to do. And if you aboslutely hate it, it's much better to figure that out as an undergraduate than once you're two years into a PhD.

I like research a lot so far, so that's not an issue. In fact, I don't particularly enjoying preparing for the competitions as well.

So I guess the general consensus is that I should spend my time on research instead of competitions?
 

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