Showing that a state is unentangled under a certain condition

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a quantum state is unentangled under specific conditions, particularly focusing on the implications of certain coefficient relationships in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of assuming a state is uncorrelated and discuss the mathematical forms of the state operator. There are attempts to derive relationships between coefficients of the state and conditions for unentanglement.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the implications of the coefficients and how they relate to the concept of unentanglement. Some participants have suggested starting points for proving the implications, while others express confusion about specific steps in the reasoning process.

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There is a focus on the mathematical relationships between coefficients in the state representation, with participants questioning the assumptions and definitions of unentangled states. The discussion includes references to specific equations and conditions that need to be satisfied for the state to be considered unentangled.

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Homework Statement
Show that a two-qubit state vector

$$ |\phi \rangle = c_{00} |00\rangle + c_{01} |01\rangle + c_{10} |10\rangle + c_{11} |11\rangle \tag{*}$$

is non-entangled iff

$$c_{00} c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10} \tag{**}$$
Relevant Equations
$$\hat \rho = \sum_m \rho_m |\phi_m \rangle \langle \phi_m | \tag{1}$$

$$|\phi_k \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n}^k | a_m b_n \rangle \tag{2}$$

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This is an iff statement, so we proceed as follows

##\Rightarrow## We assume that ##|\phi \rangle## is uncorrelated. Thus the state operator must be of the form ##\hat \rho = \rho^{(1)} \otimes \rho^{(2)}## (equation ##8.16## in Ballentine's book).

The spectral decomposition of the state operator ##\hat \rho## is

$$\hat \rho = \sum_m \rho_m |\phi_m \rangle \langle \phi_m | \tag{1}$$

The eigenvectors of ##\hat \rho## can be expanded in terms of its basis vectors (as suggested by ##(*)##)

$$|\phi_k \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n}^k | a_m b_n \rangle \tag{2}$$

Plugging ##(2)## into ##(1)## we get

$$\rho = \sum_k \rho_k \sum_{m,n} \sum_{m',n'} \Big( c_{m,n}^k \Big) \Big( c_{m',n'}^k \Big)^* | a_m b_n \rangle \langle a_{m'} b_{n'} | \tag{3}$$

By definition we know that

$$\rho^{(1)} := \text{Tr}^{(2)} \rho \tag{4}$$

The matrix elements of ##\rho^{(1)}## are (i.e. we sum over ##n##)

$$\langle a_m | \rho^{(1)} | a_{m'} \rangle = \sum_n \langle a_m b_n| \rho | a_{m'} b_{n} \rangle \tag{5}$$

Based on ##(3),(5)## we get that the partial state ##\rho^{(1)}## has the following form

$$\rho^{(1)} = \sum_k \rho_k \sum_{m,m'} \sum_{n} \Big( c_{m,n}^k \Big) \Big( c_{m',n}^k \Big)^* | a_m \rangle \langle a_{m'}| \tag{6}$$

Analogously we get that ##\rho^{(2)}## has the following form

$$\rho^{(2)} = \sum_k \rho_k \sum_{n ,n'} \sum_{m} \Big( c_{m,n}^k \Big) \Big( c_{m,n'}^k \Big)^* | b_n \rangle \langle b_{n'}| \tag{7}$$

It looks to me that the statement is assuming that ##\rho_k=1## for all values of ##k## (where ##k=1,2,3,4##).

As the state operator must be of the form ##\hat \rho = \rho^{(1)} \otimes \rho^{(2)}## we get

$$\hat \rho = \Big[\sum_{m,m'} \sum_{n} \Big( c_{m,n} \Big) \Big( c_{m',n} \Big)^* | a_m \rangle \langle a_{m'}|\Big] \otimes \Big[\sum_{n ,n'} \sum_{m} \Big( c_{m,n} \Big) \Big( c_{m,n'} \Big)^* | b_n \rangle \langle b_{n'}|\Big]$$ $$=\Big[\sum_{m,m'} \sum_{n} \Big( c_{m,n} \Big) \Big( c_{m',n} \Big)^* \Big]\Big[\sum_{n ,n'} \sum_{m} \Big( c_{m,n} \Big) \Big( c_{m,n'} \Big)^* \Big]|a_{m} b_{n} \rangle \langle a_{m'} b_{n'}| \tag{8}$$

The issue I have is that I still do not see how to show ##c_{00} c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}## out of ##(8)##

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you :biggrin:
 
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To show implication one way, you could start with an unentangled state:
$$(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)$$
And show that the equation holds for the resulting coefficients.

The reverse implication requires a bit of fiddling about with complex numbers to obtain ##a, b, c, d##.
 
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PeroK said:
The reverse implication requires a bit of fiddling about with complex numbers to obtain ##a, b, c, d##.
Which is still far easier than the giant equations OP set up.
 
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Before proceeding: my understanding of an unentangled state is the following

$$|\phi \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n} | a_m b_n \rangle=\sum_{m,n} w_m l_n | a_m \rangle \otimes| b_n \rangle$$

i.e. each state (##| a_m \rangle, | b_n \rangle##) has its own complex coefficient (##w_m, l_n##).

PeroK said:
To show implication one way, you could start with an unentangled state:
$$(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)$$
And show that the equation holds for the resulting coefficients.

Alright so we have

$$(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle) = ac|00\rangle + ad|01\rangle + bc|10\rangle + bd |11\rangle$$

But here's my confusion: why does ##acbd = adbc## condition imply unentanglement?
 
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Before proceeding: my understanding of an unentangled state is the following

$$|\phi \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n} | a_m b_n \rangle=\sum_{m,n} w_m l_n | a_m \rangle \otimes| b_n \rangle$$

i.e. each state (##| a_m \rangle, | b_n \rangle##) has its own complex coefficient (##w_m, l_n##).
Alright so we have

$$(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle) = ac|00\rangle + ad|01\rangle + bc|10\rangle + bd |11\rangle$$

But here's my confusion: why does ##acbd = adbc## condition imply unentanglement?
A state is not entangled iff it is the product of (pure) single-particle states. That means explicitly that:
$$|\phi \rangle = (a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)$$
Where $$a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle, \ \ \text{and} \ \ c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle$$ are the single-particle states. The state is entangled, therefore, iff it cannot be written in this form.

You have shown the implication one way: unentangled implies ##c_{00}c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}##.

The converse requires some work. You could start with this equation and explicitly construct ##a, b, c, d## from the coefficients ##c_{mn}##.
 
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PeroK said:
The converse requires some work. You could start with this equation and explicitly construct ##a, b, c, d## from the coefficients ##c_{mn}##.

Let's proceed.

##\Rightarrow## We assume ##c_{00}c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}##.

Based on ##|\phi \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n} | a_m b_n \rangle## we get

$$|\phi \rangle = c_{00} | 00 \rangle + c_{11} | 11 \rangle + c_{10} | 10 \rangle + c_{01} | 01 \rangle $$

We now can set ##c_{00}=ac, c_{11}=bd, c_{10}=bc, c_{01}=ad## to get

$$|\phi \rangle = (a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)$$

I guess we now have to use ##c_{00}c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}## to show that ##(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)## holds.

Mmm I still do not see it though ...
 
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Let's proceed.

##\Rightarrow## We assume ##c_{00}c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}##.

Based on ##|\phi \rangle = \sum_{m,n} c_{m,n} | a_m b_n \rangle## we get

$$|\phi \rangle = c_{00} | 00 \rangle + c_{11} | 11 \rangle + c_{10} | 10 \rangle + c_{01} | 01 \rangle $$

We now can set ##c_{00}=ac, c_{11}=bd, c_{10}=bc, c_{01}=ad## to get

$$|\phi \rangle = (a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)$$

I guess we now have to use ##c_{00}c_{11} = c_{01}c_{10}## to show that ##(a|0\rangle + b|1\rangle) \otimes (c|0\rangle + d|1\rangle)## holds.

Mmm I still do not see it though ...
You need to use the constraints of the problem.

First, if any of the coefficents ##c_{mn} = 0##, then the problem becomes trivial (exercise). So, the difficult case is when they are all non-zero. In that case, you have ##c_{11} = \frac{c_{01}c_{10}}{c_{00}}##.

You may also need that ##c_{00}^2 + c_{01}^2 + c_{10}^2 + c_{11}^2 = 1##.

Finally, it helps a little if you see that you can always take ##a## to be real.

Then, it's not too bad. But, it's not something you can just "see".
 
Mmm honestly I still do not see it.

I am sure it has to be done by comparing ##c_{mn}## to ##a,b,c,d## coefficients.

If I get it I'll post it :smile:
 
JD_PM said:
Mmm honestly I still do not see it.

I am sure it has to be done by comparing ##c_{mn}## to ##a,b,c,d## coefficients.

If I get it I'll post it :smile:
Try
$$a = \frac{|c_{00}|}{\sqrt{|c_{00}|^2 + |c_{10}|^2}}$$
 
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Hi PeroK

PeroK said:
Try
$$a = \frac{|c_{00}|}{\sqrt{|c_{00}|^2 + |c_{10}|^2}}$$

Naive question: how did you get it?
 
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Naive question: how did you get it?
First, let me use ##A, B, C, D## instead of ##c_{00} \dots##. What I did was this:
$$ ac = A, ad = B, bc = C, bd = D = \frac{BC}{A}$$
This gives
$$\frac b a = \frac C A, \ \ \text{hence} \ \ b = \frac C A a$$
Then use
$$|a|^2 + |b|^2 = 1$$
To get ##|a|## and then take ##a## to be real and positive.
 
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