Sign of the times: No more nudes in Playboy magazine

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The discussion revolves around Playboy magazine's decision to eliminate fully-nude photos from its upcoming redesign, a significant shift from its historical content since 1953. Participants explore the implications of this change, including market competition, cultural factors, and the magazine's relevance in the current media landscape.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of Playboy's redesign without nudity.
  • Others suggest that the rationale for this change includes the inability to compete with online content and the potential to access new markets where nudity is prohibited.
  • A participant notes that Playboy's revenue may increasingly come from licensing its logo, particularly in markets like China, rather than from magazine sales.
  • There is a viewpoint that Playboy may face competition from other magazines like Maxim, which could affect its identity and future in the market.
  • Some argue that the cultural context has shifted, questioning the necessity of Playboy in an era of widespread online pornography and changing social norms regarding sexuality.
  • A participant raises the economic perspective that reducing costs related to celebrity features might be a factor in the decision to remove nudity.
  • One participant shares a humorous anecdote about purchasing nudie magazines, suggesting that late-night sales could still be viable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism, curiosity, and concern regarding the implications of Playboy's decision. There is no clear consensus on the future relevance of the magazine or the effectiveness of its new strategy.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about market dynamics, cultural shifts, and the evolving nature of adult entertainment, with no resolution on the implications of these factors for Playboy's future.

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In March, Playboy magazine will roll out a new design which lacks the fully-nude photos that have been a signature feature since its beginning in 1953. Hef himself agreed to the change.

Nudes Are Old News at Playboy (New York Times)
 
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I can't see that happening. :oldtongue:
 
Hugh hefner wants shooting, i am not a dirty old man wearing a mackintosh i am an appreciator of art, come to think of it i hardly ever buy this type of magazine so why should i worry:wink:
 
All of the nudes are now on cable television.
 
I believe the rationale is that
a] no way it can compete with what you can find on the Interwebz, and
b] removing the element of nudity opens up a huge market, here (it can be put on newsstands), but more importantly, abroad. Many countries forbid magazine nudity outright. Playboy simply cannot be distributed there with nudity. This change will allow it into many countries around the world who could not otherwise sell it.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I believe the rationale is that
a] no way it can compete with what you can find on the Interwebz, and
b] removing the element of nudity opens up a huge market, here (it can be put on newsstands), but more importantly, abroad. Many countries forbid magazine nudity outright. Playboy simply cannot be distributed there with nudity. This change will allow it into many countries around the world who could not otherwise sell it.

Right. Playboy gets its money via licensing the logo, largely in China. The magazine just hangs around to lend the logo credibility.
 
Hornbein said:
Right. Playboy gets its money via licensing the logo, largely in China. The magazine just hangs around to lend the logo credibility.
Interesting. When I was in China I noticed a lot of women wear shoes, shirts, purses, etc. with the Playboy logo on it. I wasn't sure if Playboy went into the clothing industry, but I guess this explains it.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I believe the rationale is that
a] no way it can compete with what you can find on the Interwebz, and
b] removing the element of nudity opens up a huge market, here (it can be put on newsstands), but more importantly, abroad. Many countries forbid magazine nudity outright. Playboy simply cannot be distributed there with nudity. This change will allow it into many countries around the world who could not otherwise sell it.

But then by doing this, Playboy will be competing with the likes of Maxim and other similar magazines of that ilk both in newsstands and in foreign markets. But given that Playboy is still primarily associated with open expression of sexuality in a way that Maxim and other magazines don't quite embrace, it does make me wonder about the future of the magazine. The Playboy corporation itself may survive through the licensing of its logo and through the Playboy channel and online web businesses, however.

At any rate, I consider Playboy itself to be largely obsolete as a magazine. The whole idea of Playboy was to embrace the sexual revolution, which has largely run its course in society. With the widespread availability of porn online, and where swinging, open relationships, friends-with-benefits arrangements, and casual hookups all considered options for the current generation (if not fully mainstream), is there really even a reason for Playboy to exist?
 
I bet there is also an economics standpoint of not having to pay celebrities to show their "talent." I don't know anyone who buys nudie magazines when you can stream it for free, so merch income is pretty much carrying the burden, I imagine.
 
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Fun story, a friend of mine sometimes winds up in the newspaper shop after a night out. (No really, a friend. No shop on my way home)
Depending on his level of intoxication he takes home a nudie magazine. So if the shops would stay open until 2-3 am they'd see a rise in sales I would bet.
 

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