Mastering PDEs with Similarity Solutions: Tips and Tricks from the Pros

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This discussion focuses on the challenges of solving Partial Differential Equations (PDEs) using similarity solutions. Participants express confusion regarding the derivation of similarity variables and the significance of specific relationships, such as $$\frac{z}{s^{a/b}} = \frac{x}{t^{a/b}}$$ and $$u = t^{c/b} y ( \xi )$$. The consensus is that while solving PDEs can often feel like guesswork, experience improves one's ability to identify effective similarity variables. A structured approach for determining these variables is suggested, emphasizing the importance of practice and familiarity with the subject.

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Hi PF!

I am confused about solving PDE's using a similarity solution. How do we come up with the similarity variable? Is it scaling or lucky guesses?

I've read several papers on it but haven't found the reasons on why they use the variables they do for the similarity to work. Any advice from you would be great!

Thanks!
 
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Solving PDEs is guesswork ... you get better at guessing as you gain experience.
http://web.iitd.ac.in/~vvksrini/Similar3.pdf
 
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This is one of the papers I read. I don't see the significance of either $$\frac{z}{s^{a/b}} = \frac{x}{t^{a/b}} \\ vs^{-c/b} = ut^{-c/b}$$ and how the above relations help us decide that ##\xi = x / t^{a/b}## and that ##u = t^{c/b} y ( \xi )##.

Could you help me out?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Solving PDEs is guesswork ... you get better at guessing as you gain experience.

I think that was always my main gripe with them, or at least when I learned about them. I totally understand that they are usually *the* way of describing most physical things. But the solutions one learned about always seemed cherry-picked to work.
In the end, I always had the feeling that if I ever were to encounter one in real life and needed the solution, a computer simulation was the only way.
 
joshmccraney said:
This is one of the papers I read. I don't see the significance of either $$\frac{z}{s^{a/b}} = \frac{x}{t^{a/b}} \\ vs^{-c/b} = ut^{-c/b}$$ and how the above relations help us decide that ##\xi = x / t^{a/b}## and that ##u = t^{c/b} y ( \xi )##.

Could you help me out?
If you can cite a specific problem, I think I can help you through this. There was a procedure we learned in school for identifying the similarity variable.

Chet
 
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Chestermiller said:
If you can cite a specific problem, I think I can help you through this. There was a procedure we learned in school for identifying the similarity variable.

Chet
So I'm not looking at one specifically now, but perhaps I can take you up on this offer later on (in a few weeks)?
 
joshmccraney said:
So I'm not looking at one specifically now, but perhaps I can take you up on this offer later on (in a few weeks)?
No problem.

Chet
 

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