Simplification in Schrodinger derivation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Schrödinger equation from the Klein-Gordon equation, specifically focusing on the approximation of the relativistic total energy expression. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning behind the transition from a square root form to a linear approximation.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the origin of the factor of 1/2 in the approximation and questions the method used to simplify the square root. Some participants suggest looking into the binomial approximation as a potential explanation.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the mathematical concepts involved, with one suggesting the binomial approximation as a relevant tool. There is an acknowledgment of the usefulness of this approximation, and the discussion appears to be moving towards a deeper understanding of the topic.

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The original poster notes that this inquiry is not part of a homework assignment, which may influence the nature of the discussion and the types of responses provided.

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This is not a homework question. This is not for a course. However, I got a warning for posting such questions elsewhere, so, I suppose I must post them here.

Homework Statement


The following is an excerpt of the derivation of the Schrödinger equation. After deriving the Klein-Gordon equation, the relativistic total energy is approximated to arrive at the Schrödinger equation.

Homework Equations



E = mc^2\sqrt{1+\frac{p^2}{m^2c^2}}
\approx mc^2\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{p^2}{m^2c^2}\right)

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, frankly, I do not see how they went from the first step to the second step. Where did the 1/2 come from? How does the removal of the square root effectively approximate this? I am not seeing it. Was a conjugate used and multiplied somehow?
 
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It may also help you to play around with some of these plots to get a feel for how well the approximations work. For example, letting ##x = p/(mc)##, take a look at a comparison of the two curves, plotted with wolframalpha:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Plot[{Sqrt[1+x^2],1+x^2/2},{x,0,1}]

Play around with some other examples of the binomial approximation as well.
 
Thank you! This is perfect. I do not know how I managed to get this far without having heard of the binomial approximation, and having tutored math for years. I guess I am one of the lucky ten thousand.
 

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