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Singing Began in Fish, Perfected by Birds

  1. Jan 18, 2009 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/01/16/bird-song-analysis.html
     
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  3. Jan 18, 2009 #2

    tiny-tim

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    uhh? :blushing:

    :biggrin: we invented singing in the bath! :biggrin:
     
  4. Jan 18, 2009 #3

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    Hmm, if only PF had a fish and a bird among its members. We could have a contest and see who sings better!

    From the article:
    It's pretty cool to watch a young bird learn to sing. We have pet java rice finches, and one time we bought a young male that learned to sing from our older male. IIRC, it took a few weeks to a month to learn the complete song. Whenever the older bird sang during that period, the younger one would fly over and perch next to him, as if intently studying the master at work.

    For a while in there the young bird even tried to sing like the European goldfinches we kept at the time, but it couldn't quite get it right.
     
  5. Jan 18, 2009 #4

    tiny-tim

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    Are you aquatic? :smile:
     
  6. Jan 18, 2009 #5

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    Hmmm, no. Could you come up and sit on this tree branch next to me? :biggrin:
     
  7. Jan 19, 2009 #6

    tiny-tim

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    my singing is best appreciated …

    underwater! :wink:
     
  8. Jan 19, 2009 #7

    turbo

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    I'm forever blowing bubbles......
     
  9. Jan 19, 2009 #8

    Ivan Seeking

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DwUmamqsZE
     
  10. Jan 19, 2009 #9
    That is not completely true. There are songbirds, such as the chaffinch, whose repertoire is largely inherited. Feedback from other birds still has influence, but even if it was in complete isolation from the beginning of his life, a male chaffinch could produce a song recognized by a female.

    I'm also wary of the statement that birdsong is analogous to gulping for air in lungfish. This could or could not have any connection (although the article provides no explanation whatsoever). Will have to check the Journal of Comparative Physiology article when it's out.
     
  11. Jan 19, 2009 #10
    catfish can sound like they're crying when you're skinning them. but i can't say've ever thought of it as anything more than a creepy accident of nature. i've certainly never noticed a catfish in an aquarium doing what i'd consider vocalizing.
     
  12. Jan 20, 2009 #11

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    Lame joke alert

    Yes, but there is more than one way to skin a catfish.
     
  13. Jan 20, 2009 #12
    lol, this is true. you might want to start with a hammer...
     
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