Singular solutions Separable Eq. and IVP

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The discussion centers on the relationship between singular solutions and initial value problems (IVPs) in the context of separable differential equations. The IVP is presented in the form y' = f(x,y) with a specific condition y(x0) = y0. The participant highlights the confusion arising from the general solution y = (x-c)^2, which appears to yield a valid particular solution y = 0 when substituting x = 0, despite the assumption that y is not equal to 0 during separation. This indicates that singular solutions cannot be derived from general solutions, yet they coexist within the framework of the differential equation.

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Hi,

I am a little bit confused about singular solutions and their relationship with IVP's and decided to ask you.


As far as I understood, the IVP's could be in a form:
y' = f(x,y)
y(x0) = y0

To obtain a general solution, we could use separable eq. method. I have learned that sometimes when we separate the variables, we assume a particular condition to be valid. (that might have an asymptotic behaviour. )

Also, as far as I know, a singular solution can not be obtained from a general solution.

My impression was that the general solution shouldn't have worked for y = y0 if we derived it assuming y is not equal to y0. However, that example confuses me;

y' = 2 (y^1/2)
y(0) = 0


By the sep. eq. method and integrating both sides;

(dy / 2(y^1/2)) = dx

I have found that y = (x-c)^2. However, while separating, we actually assume that y is not equal to 0.

What's confusing is, at this general solution, when I plug y = 0 and x = 0; I get a particular solution; which is y = x^2 and that perfectly works well! It does not make sense to get a particular solution which suggests y= 0 when x = 0 using a general solution that is not defined for y = 0. (Because I had assumed y is not equal to 0 while I was separating the variables. )
 
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It is sufficient to solve for y with y not 0, then extend the solution to y= 0 since, in order that the derivative exist, y must be continuous.

But did you notice that y(x)= 0 for all x is also a solution? In fact, if you set y(x)= (x- a)2 for x< a< 0, y(x)= 0 for a< x< b (where b> 0), y(x)= (x-b)2 for 0< b< x is also a solution to the differential equation satisfying y(0)= 0.
 

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