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Skeleton on Nematodes?

  1. Sep 29, 2012 #1
    I've been searching the internet about if nematodes have a skeleton or not. While I do know that nematodes have a pseudocoelom that acts as a hydrostatic skeleton, various sources on the internet says otherwise. Although, I have also seen some sources saying that they do have skeleton. So, whats true about the skeleton on nematodes? I thought if I'm going to ask on the internet, I'd ask here, since most people here are professionals and expert in their chosen field. :)

    SOURCES SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE SKELETON:
    http://www.mcwdn.org/Animals/Roundworms.html
    http://abis.upc.es/bionta/en/node/229

    BUT, VARIOUS ASK-AND-GET-ANSWERS SITES SAY THEY DO:
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_nematode_have_a_skeleton
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100323164959AAI7mOI

    please help.
     
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  3. Sep 29, 2012 #2
    Anyone please help?...
     
  4. Sep 29, 2012 #3
    Nematodes are invertebrates. Invertebrates don't have skeletons. A true skeleton only appears in chordates.

    It is possible that by skeleton you mean any hard part. For instance, the chiton capace of arthropods are sometimes called a exoskeleton. Similiarly, the calcerous substrate laid down by hard corals is sometimes called a skeleton. However, I don't think any nematodes have hard parts either.

    Nematodes are a phylum of animals that are also called roundworms. Round worms tend to be rather flexible. I don't know how an animal that flexible could have hard parts. I know some annelids are called tube worms live in a hard tube. However, I have never heard of a nematode that lives in a hard tube.

    Basically, the answer is that nematodes don't have true skeletons. I don't think they have any hard parts, either. Like all eukaryotes, the cells of nematodes have a cytoskeleton. However, I don't think this can be considered a real skeleton by any stretch of the imagination.

    Wiki calls the coelum a hydrostatic skeleton. However, this is a misrepresentation of the word. A hydrostatic skeleton is not a skeleton. The word skeleton is being used by Wiki in a completely different way. A hydrostatic skeleton isn't a skeleton any more than a balloon animal is a vertebrate.




    You have to be careful about Wiki Answers. It is not reliable. Further, it isn't like Wikipedia itself. There is no requirement in Wiki Answers to give references.

    Personal anecdote. I one time asked WikiAnswers why gold fish don't have stomachs. The answer was they have stomachs. I rechecked later. Goldfish don't have stomachs.

    Goldfish are a type of carp. Natural selection has removed the stomach of carp because carp eat very small microbes. A stomach isn't needed to digest small microbes. Whoever answered didn't know that.

    Goldfish have an intestinal bulb. This is not a stomach. Nor is it a light bulb.
     
  5. Sep 29, 2012 #4

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    The nematodes outer most layer (called the "cuticle") is its toughest. If you puncture them, they'll lose "turgor pressure" then they can't move. They rely on the rigidity from the turgor pressure to move since they don't have rigidity from a skeletal structure.
     
  6. Sep 29, 2012 #5

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    I think this is an area of monique's expertise.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2012 #6
    @Darwin123
    Thanks for the answer. Just wanted to clarify something. You said this:

    Wiki calls the coelum a hydrostatic skeleton. However, this is a misrepresentation of the word. A hydrostatic skeleton is not a skeleton. The word skeleton is being used by Wiki in a completely different way. A hydrostatic skeleton isn't a skeleton any more than a balloon animal is a vertebrate


    We were taught in university that there are 2 types of skeleton. Rigid and Hydrostatic. I don't know why my lecturer(teacher) said that, because I can see your point. So, hydrostatic skeleton isn't really a skeleton?
     
  8. Sep 30, 2012 #7

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    It's not a skeleton, following the definition: an internal or external framework of bone, cartilage, or other rigid material supporting or containing the body of an animal or plant.

    The nematode does have a fluid-filled cavity, more on the function of the pseudocoelom in C. elegans: C. elegans Atlas
     
  9. Sep 30, 2012 #8
    Thanks for the answer!:)
     
  10. Oct 2, 2012 #9
    I guess it is a matter of semantics. Aesthetically, I can't see a hydrostatic skeleton as being analogous to a vertebrates skeleton. I will play Devils' advocate by bringing up an odd borderline example.

    The notochord of chordates is not made of true bone. It is made of cartilage, which is a type of flexible connective tissue. The notochord is stiff only because of hydrostatic pressure, not because the cartilage is stiff. In this way, it is like the cuticle of a nematode.

    In some primitive chordates (amphioxus, tunicates, hagfish), the notochord is used by the adult for propulsion just as you described the cuticle is used. The notochord is highly elastic. The muscles of the chordate adult bends its body. When the muscles relax, the notochord springs back. Thus, the notochord provides an efficient form of propulsion. The muscles couldn't provide propulsion without it. This is probably the primitive function of the notochord. So the notochord of chordates can be considered analogous to the cuticle of nematodes.

    Since it is stiff due to hydrostatic pressure, it can be considered a hydrostatic skeleton. In protochordates, it serves the exact same function as the cuticle of a nematode.
    The notochord is not used for propulsion by vertebrates, which are the specialized chordates that are common now. Bone forms around the notochord, producing the vertebrae. The notochord withers away. The remains of the notochord become the discs between the vertebrae that serve mainly to lubricate the motion of the backbone.

    Cartilage is often a precursor to bone in vertebrates. In the case of the notochord, the cartilage remains as part of the backbone (i.e., the discs). So the notochord can be also considered part of the rigid skeleton.

    Strangely, the notochord is both a hydrostatic skeleton and part of a rigid skeleton at different stages of development. It is both.



    Maybe the instructor has organized the lecture so that the notochord will be discussed later in the class. He threw the hydrostatic skeletons and the rigid skeletons together into the same classification just to avoid confusion when he starts to talk about notochords. In other words, he cooked the lecture so that the notochord is not an ambiguous case. Now, e can simply get up and call the notochord a skeleton without anyone asking embarrassing questions.

    The notochord is an unusual case of a part that is both a hydrostatic skeleton and a rigid skeleton at different points of development. In the embryo, it is a hydrostatic skeleton. In the adult, it is part of a rigid skeleton.

    Organizing lectures is hard, so I can appreciate this point. The fewer borderlands, the easier the journey. However, I still think there were better ways to deal with the notochord than throwing two concepts together that have very little overlap. The lecturer should not dump hydrostatic skeletons in the same brew with rigid skeletons.
     
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